ᐅ Safe room in an older building: security expert for older buildings wanted

Created on: 10 Nov 2018 13:50
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Steven
Hello

I am facing a challenge:
An old building is to be upgraded for extreme security.
Windows that are truly secure. What protection class is available for that?
Doors accordingly.
And preferably a complete lockdown of the upper floor—essentially a large panic room.
An architect is involved. He is experienced with old houses, but probably less so with security.
Budget is not the top priority. I understand that upgrading will not be cheap.
Does anyone know a company or specialist familiar with mechanical security upgrades?

Steven
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aero2016
10 Nov 2018 22:39
Have you already contacted the responsible heritage conservator? Their opinion on this would be interesting!

In fact, you won’t be able to create such a high-security area in a house like that. The observant intruder will likely just break through the wooden beam ceiling (or brick wall or whatever) past the steel plate. With the right preparations, that can be done quickly.
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Bieber0815
10 Nov 2018 22:39
Is there a reason to insulate only the upper floor like that? Does the lower floor need to remain more "open" or less secure?
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chand1986
10 Nov 2018 22:56
The hideout is only worth it if you never go outside. Otherwise, the determined intruder will just shoot you while you’re out shopping.

I stick to the Pareto principle. Security door at the top, windows, front door, possibly a camera at the front door. Panic rooms if desired.

Except for the rooms, everything else can be customized.

If I can’t get in and you can’t get out, I’ll just send you a letter bomb.

These measures only work against unimaginative offenders.
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ypg
10 Nov 2018 22:59
Steven schrieb:
Safety measures in an old house. The rest comes from some damp imagination.

I don’t see safety measures in an old building as the main issue here. The focus is on sealing off the entire upper floor as a panic room. While it might sound tempting to think about implementation over a beer in the evening, constantly bringing up such paranoia in a forum is simply unhealthy. Just put a fence around the property and call it a day. Or a moat. With a drawbridge. Close the gate, problem solved.
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HilfeHilfe
11 Nov 2018 07:07
Sometimes it’s better to let yourself get caught; there is plenty of panic and being stuck in the room.
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Steven
11 Nov 2018 08:48
ypg schrieb:
I actually recommend therapy for this... paranoia.
Hello

I briefly outlined the problem here and asked a specific question.
Already, people who clearly base their knowledge on private medical TV shows are diagnosing me with schizophrenia (what signs in this thread suggest a split personality?) and advising me to seek therapy for my supposed paranoia. Someone else says all security measures are pointless anyway—you could just send a letter bomb. Certainly, heavy artillery would penetrate any secured roof.

Without background information, the uninformed are once again swinging their club. This forum often seems to me like a mix of a kindergarten and a left-wing training ground.
So, go ahead, you amateur psychologists and explosives experts (by the way, the problem with a letter bomb is not the explosive but the detonator—if you want to gain some knowledge).

Maybe there is someone here genuinely interested in providing me with information regarding the original thread.
By the way, I’ve already taken a big step forward and have been given the names of three companies that might be able to handle this.

Steven