ᐅ Safe room in an older building: security expert for older buildings wanted

Created on: 10 Nov 2018 13:50
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Steven
Hello

I am facing a challenge:
An old building is to be upgraded for extreme security.
Windows that are truly secure. What protection class is available for that?
Doors accordingly.
And preferably a complete lockdown of the upper floor—essentially a large panic room.
An architect is involved. He is experienced with old houses, but probably less so with security.
Budget is not the top priority. I understand that upgrading will not be cheap.
Does anyone know a company or specialist familiar with mechanical security upgrades?

Steven
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haydee
10 Nov 2018 21:50
Who knows what the builder has been through. Kidnapping, rape, burglary with physical violence.

I hope the historical preservation restrictions do not apply to the interior. A friend of my father's is having serious problems. Facade, stucco, and a few other things.
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ypg
10 Nov 2018 22:03
haydee schrieb:
Who knows what the builder/owner has experienced. Kidnapping, rape, burglary involving physical violence.

Attentive readers will have noticed that the previous thread was already locked... but the assault has also been the subject of various threads for years.
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chand1986
10 Nov 2018 22:16
A basic question: If I want to secure the upper floor from the lower floor, wouldn’t a (high) security door in the stairwell be sufficient? The ceiling is what it is anyway.

Otherwise, wouldn’t it be easier to create two high-security panic rooms (one per floor) rather than converting the entire apartment into a panic room?

This approach could also avoid significant daily restrictions while still providing a safe shelter in case of emergency.

Seriously.
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haydee
10 Nov 2018 22:20
I have noticed this.

It does happen, although very rarely. I would find it troubling if something like this were used for indirect propaganda.
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Steven
10 Nov 2018 22:27
Hello everyone

You’re overcomplicating things.
The question was about a professional company or an expert who can plan and carry out such, admittedly extreme, protective measures in a listed building.
Now some are already suspecting schizophrenia. How do you come up with that idea?
Paranoia—I could understand that at least. But even that diagnosis is wrong. For non-experts, and especially from a distance, such a diagnosis can only be made if one reads a lot of sensational tabloids.
This is actually only about the initial thread: security measures in an old house. The rest comes from some rather vivid imagination.

Steven
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Steven
10 Nov 2018 22:33
[QUOTE="chand1986, post: 292068, member: 41942 If I want to lock off an upper floor from a lower floor, isn’t a (high)security door in the stairwell enough? .[/QUOTE]

Hello chand,
that’s the crux of the matter. It’s actually quite simple in theory, but the implementation is not so easy.
The solution you described is the idea, but in such a way that the stairwell looks “normal.” Yet in an emergency, it can be locked with the push of a button. Or in the evening, when going upstairs to sleep, it can be secured by pressing a button and unlocked again in the morning. It sounds straightforward, but the installation should be done by a professional. A vault door is not what’s needed. More like a panel that slides down from the ceiling into the stairwell and disappears again in the morning.

Steven