ᐅ Floor plan for a single-family house of approximately 1,500 sq ft – Staircase that can be separated or enclosed
Created on: 21 Apr 2015 14:30
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derelvis
Important details:
Development plan / restrictions:
Plot size: 5.2 ares (25 x 21m / 82 x 69 ft)
Orientation:
Slope: slight south-facing slope, 1m (3 ft) drop over 25m (82 ft)
Building window, building line and boundary: 2.5m (8 ft)
Edge development: garage
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1.5 stories
Roof type: gable roof
Client requirements:
Basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 + child (2 years)
Space requirement: approx. 135–140sqm (1450–1500 sq ft)
Office: family use
Conservative construction method
Open kitchen: possibly (only an L-shape) or with sliding door
Number of dining seats: standard 4, otherwise up to 12
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: minimum length 3.5m (11.5 ft)
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage or garage + carport
Hello everyone,
Attached you’ll find our planned house. It is an architect’s design revised multiple times. We are very satisfied with the design, but of course, sometimes things get overlooked.
If anyone has suggestions or criticism, please don’t hold back.
One obvious criticism might be the staircase at the “end of the house,” but this is important to us because we want a separable staircase to isolate the entrance noise from the living room. We prefer not to have a single-family home with an integrated open staircase.
If anyone can sketch a better solution, we would of course appreciate it.
- Driveway only possible on the south side
- Pantry close to the kitchen
- Separable living units
- Ground floor fully livable for elderly (currently the marked bedroom is an office)
- Basement
- Approx. 135–140sqm (1450–1500 sq ft)
- Knee wall height 1.2m (4 ft)
Development plan / restrictions:
Plot size: 5.2 ares (25 x 21m / 82 x 69 ft)
Orientation:
Slope: slight south-facing slope, 1m (3 ft) drop over 25m (82 ft)
Building window, building line and boundary: 2.5m (8 ft)
Edge development: garage
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1.5 stories
Roof type: gable roof
Client requirements:
Basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 + child (2 years)
Space requirement: approx. 135–140sqm (1450–1500 sq ft)
Office: family use
Conservative construction method
Open kitchen: possibly (only an L-shape) or with sliding door
Number of dining seats: standard 4, otherwise up to 12
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: minimum length 3.5m (11.5 ft)
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage or garage + carport
Hello everyone,
Attached you’ll find our planned house. It is an architect’s design revised multiple times. We are very satisfied with the design, but of course, sometimes things get overlooked.
If anyone has suggestions or criticism, please don’t hold back.
One obvious criticism might be the staircase at the “end of the house,” but this is important to us because we want a separable staircase to isolate the entrance noise from the living room. We prefer not to have a single-family home with an integrated open staircase.
If anyone can sketch a better solution, we would of course appreciate it.
In my opinion, the staircase is positioned somewhat inconveniently. Access from the corner or the short side results in relatively long hallways.
The toilet can be separated. Each option has its pros and cons. In our case, it is fully enclosed, so the bathroom is completely private. Others use a privacy screen, and some have a separate toilet room. Everyone has their preference. A separate toilet is likely a few hundred euros more expensive due to additional tiling and an extra washbasin.
What I believe is the main issue in the discussion is the statement about separation. And this is where I see the problem:
I disagree. Draw the wall into the floor plan and then try closing the door to get upstairs. It might somehow still work alone, but with two people or carrying a shopping basket, it definitely won’t.
The only continuous (possibly load-bearing) wall will be removed, and then? Where will the kitchen go?
We also briefly considered having a separable ground floor but quickly abandoned the idea. I think this only works sensibly in houses of a certain size. You have simply "wasted" too much space on the ground floor (set-back entrance and long hallway), and the upstairs will never become a practical self-contained apartment.
The toilet can be separated. Each option has its pros and cons. In our case, it is fully enclosed, so the bathroom is completely private. Others use a privacy screen, and some have a separate toilet room. Everyone has their preference. A separate toilet is likely a few hundred euros more expensive due to additional tiling and an extra washbasin.
What I believe is the main issue in the discussion is the statement about separation. And this is where I see the problem:
derelvis schrieb:
Topic staircase:
This can be easily separated by extending the stairwell (masonry) and connecting it downwards to the kitchen corner.
I disagree. Draw the wall into the floor plan and then try closing the door to get upstairs. It might somehow still work alone, but with two people or carrying a shopping basket, it definitely won’t.
derelvis schrieb:
The kitchen connections/pipes will go into the south children's room. The two children's rooms will be connected by a breakthrough and with a balcony on the west, the living room/kitchen.
The only continuous (possibly load-bearing) wall will be removed, and then? Where will the kitchen go?
We also briefly considered having a separable ground floor but quickly abandoned the idea. I think this only works sensibly in houses of a certain size. You have simply "wasted" too much space on the ground floor (set-back entrance and long hallway), and the upstairs will never become a practical self-contained apartment.
Musketier schrieb:
A separate toilet might cost a few hundred euros more due to extra tiles and an additional sink. There’s also the extra door, which costs at least 200€. In principle, I don’t think a separate toilet is a bad idea. I had one in my parents’ house. Especially with daughters, at least you can use the toilet if someone is blocking the bathroom. However, in our case it was at a 90-degree angle to the bathroom door, so you could quickly dash from the bathroom down the hall with or without a towel.
Regarding separable living units, I share the same view as everyone else. If you want one, it should make sense. A small bedroom might theoretically be enough for you now, but what about when you’re older? And do you really want to give up the luxury of your bedroom plus dressing room? That’s quite a big change!
Also, how would the tenant (whether family or not) access the basement?
Here’s something I just thought about:
You could swap the pantry and the bathroom, so the bedroom and pantry would be next to each other.
The load-bearing walls would need to be changed so that the wall between the pantry and bathroom becomes load-bearing.
If, later in life, you move downstairs, you could remove the wall between the pantry and bedroom, creating a bedroom of about 5 x 3.4m (16.5 x 11 ft).
Additionally, you could use the pantry entrance as the entrance to the new, larger bedroom and seal off the other bedroom entrance.
This way, you would have a completely separate stairwell, since the door to the bedroom would no longer exist.
Plus, you would have a shorter route from the front door to the pantry, and from the living room to the restroom.
Would this be a good idea?
We’ll find common ground eventually.
You could swap the pantry and the bathroom, so the bedroom and pantry would be next to each other.
The load-bearing walls would need to be changed so that the wall between the pantry and bathroom becomes load-bearing.
If, later in life, you move downstairs, you could remove the wall between the pantry and bedroom, creating a bedroom of about 5 x 3.4m (16.5 x 11 ft).
Additionally, you could use the pantry entrance as the entrance to the new, larger bedroom and seal off the other bedroom entrance.
This way, you would have a completely separate stairwell, since the door to the bedroom would no longer exist.
Plus, you would have a shorter route from the front door to the pantry, and from the living room to the restroom.
Would this be a good idea?
We’ll find common ground eventually.
We have now decided to keep everything as it was.
The kitchen corner was too important to my wife. Everything can be reached in one step here.
That wouldn’t be possible with the new design, and it would feel more fragmented.
However, we will still remove the load-bearing wall between the bedroom and the bathroom, so that the ground floor can be arranged as in the latest design.
This means: both partition walls can be removed and a new wall can be built.
The pantry will be eliminated, and the bathroom and bedroom will become larger.
Thank you nonetheless for the suggestions; that’s how the idea for redesigning for later life came about.
The kitchen corner was too important to my wife. Everything can be reached in one step here.
That wouldn’t be possible with the new design, and it would feel more fragmented.
However, we will still remove the load-bearing wall between the bedroom and the bathroom, so that the ground floor can be arranged as in the latest design.
This means: both partition walls can be removed and a new wall can be built.
The pantry will be eliminated, and the bathroom and bedroom will become larger.
Thank you nonetheless for the suggestions; that’s how the idea for redesigning for later life came about.
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