ᐅ Single-family house with two full stories, mono-pitched roof, no basement
Created on: 17 Jul 2018 16:40
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Bean84
Hello,
we have been following this forum for some time and have already incorporated many ideas into our floor plan design. Now we're starting to get serious and want to obtain cost estimates. Changes to the plan are still possible.
The plan was created by a structural engineer based on our wishes.
We would appreciate suggestions and constructive criticism.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 849 sqm (approx. NE-SW - so from bottom to top: about 30 meters (approx. 98 feet, average, slightly diagonal), from left to right about 26 meters (approx. 85 feet)
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building envelope, building line and boundary: Yes, there is one, about 3 meters (approx. 10 feet) to the NE and SW. On the other two sides, boundary development is possible.
Number of parking spaces: Attic + 2 parking spaces in front
Number of floors: two full stories, no basement
Roof type: Shed roof (mono-pitch) with 6.6-degree slope
Style: Modern
Orientation: Southwest
Maximum heights / limits: (specified above sea level) - approx. 11.5 meters (approx. 38 feet)
Additional requirements: No flat roofs, minimum roof pitch 5 degrees, for two full stories a maximum roof pitch of 35 degrees for gable roofs.
Homeowner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Shed roof (mono-pitch), modern, clean lines
Basement, floors: two full stories, no basement
Number of residents, ages: Currently three (34, 33, 3) - possibility for a second child is open.
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: Probably less than initially planned...
Office: Family use or home office?: An office is desired for general household activities, but working from home is not mandatory.
Overnight guests per year: about 15
Open or closed architecture: Open. Definitely open.
Conservative or modern construction: Modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Yes. - Not yet shown in the plan; we have currently designed a peninsula with five tall cabinets behind it (in a niche).
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: Yes
Music / stereo wall: Not necessary.
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Maybe self-built later, but already planned.
Utility garden, greenhouse: No.
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why certain things are desired or not: We work shift schedules. It would be good if one can get up without waking the other. Also, we want a "buffer zone" between the children's bedrooms and the master bedroom to allow sleeping during the day.
House Design
Planner: Independent structural engineer (commissioned by us)
What do you particularly like? Why?: Open living space, straight staircase, gallery, no "uninviting" stairwell, corner window in the living room, spacious ground floor.
What do you dislike? Why?: Layout of the upper floor (storage room as a last resort?), second door in the bathroom, general window arrangement.
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: 350,000 - 400,000 euros
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: 400,000 euros
Preferred heating technology: Air-to-water heat pump with underfloor heating and fireplace - NO ventilation system!
If you have to give up anything, on which details / extensions can you compromise: build smaller if necessary; straight staircase
On which details / extensions can you not compromise: gallery, fireplace, office, children’s bedrooms no smaller than 15 sqm (approx. 161 sq ft)
Why is the design the way it is now? - ? Because it was planned around the straight staircase
Standard design from the planner? - No
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? - Almost all.
A mix of many examples from various magazines... - Yes
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
How do you see the price range, what are your honest opinions about the floor plan in general? Ways to reduce the size?
we have been following this forum for some time and have already incorporated many ideas into our floor plan design. Now we're starting to get serious and want to obtain cost estimates. Changes to the plan are still possible.
The plan was created by a structural engineer based on our wishes.
We would appreciate suggestions and constructive criticism.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 849 sqm (approx. NE-SW - so from bottom to top: about 30 meters (approx. 98 feet, average, slightly diagonal), from left to right about 26 meters (approx. 85 feet)
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building envelope, building line and boundary: Yes, there is one, about 3 meters (approx. 10 feet) to the NE and SW. On the other two sides, boundary development is possible.
Number of parking spaces: Attic + 2 parking spaces in front
Number of floors: two full stories, no basement
Roof type: Shed roof (mono-pitch) with 6.6-degree slope
Style: Modern
Orientation: Southwest
Maximum heights / limits: (specified above sea level) - approx. 11.5 meters (approx. 38 feet)
Additional requirements: No flat roofs, minimum roof pitch 5 degrees, for two full stories a maximum roof pitch of 35 degrees for gable roofs.
Homeowner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Shed roof (mono-pitch), modern, clean lines
Basement, floors: two full stories, no basement
Number of residents, ages: Currently three (34, 33, 3) - possibility for a second child is open.
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: Probably less than initially planned...
Office: Family use or home office?: An office is desired for general household activities, but working from home is not mandatory.
Overnight guests per year: about 15
Open or closed architecture: Open. Definitely open.
Conservative or modern construction: Modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Yes. - Not yet shown in the plan; we have currently designed a peninsula with five tall cabinets behind it (in a niche).
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: Yes
Music / stereo wall: Not necessary.
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Maybe self-built later, but already planned.
Utility garden, greenhouse: No.
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why certain things are desired or not: We work shift schedules. It would be good if one can get up without waking the other. Also, we want a "buffer zone" between the children's bedrooms and the master bedroom to allow sleeping during the day.
House Design
Planner: Independent structural engineer (commissioned by us)
What do you particularly like? Why?: Open living space, straight staircase, gallery, no "uninviting" stairwell, corner window in the living room, spacious ground floor.
What do you dislike? Why?: Layout of the upper floor (storage room as a last resort?), second door in the bathroom, general window arrangement.
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: 350,000 - 400,000 euros
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: 400,000 euros
Preferred heating technology: Air-to-water heat pump with underfloor heating and fireplace - NO ventilation system!
If you have to give up anything, on which details / extensions can you compromise: build smaller if necessary; straight staircase
On which details / extensions can you not compromise: gallery, fireplace, office, children’s bedrooms no smaller than 15 sqm (approx. 161 sq ft)
Why is the design the way it is now? - ? Because it was planned around the straight staircase
Standard design from the planner? - No
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? - Almost all.
A mix of many examples from various magazines... - Yes
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
How do you see the price range, what are your honest opinions about the floor plan in general? Ways to reduce the size?
...I overlooked that the gallery is apparently indispensable...yeah, then it gets difficult...but you have to be aware that the children's rooms are arranged right around the gallery, so sound travels more easily there. Especially concerning shifts...when the coffee machine downstairs is making cappuccinos early in the morning.
kaho674 schrieb:
Simply swap the parents’ bedroom and the walk-in closet, then this "changing room" can be removed along with the second door to the bathroom.We weren’t really sure about this walk-in closet either, and somehow felt it was odd to have to go through the closet to get to the bedroom... But by now, I think we see it the same way as you.
kaho674 schrieb:
I don’t see any further design errors at first glance. The hallway on the ground floor is huge – which doesn’t have to be a bad thing if you plan an elegant entrance, but to me it seems too plain and uninteresting, just like the living area. Maybe the homeowner has a good eye for interior design. The elephant stomped on the stairs already – I agree.We actually don’t need a special reception area. It just turned out that way somehow. The niche next to the guest toilet will be used for the coat rack. The staircase should be open towards the front door with a glass balustrade and integrated lighting.
Do you have any ideas on how to make it less plain or a bit more exciting?
face26 schrieb:
...I missed that the gallery is apparently essential...well, that makes it difficult...but you have to be aware that the children's rooms are arranged around the gallery, so sound travels more easily there. Yes, we want the gallery because we think it makes the house a bit more interesting... You are of course right about the noise level, but we’re willing to accept that.
face26 schrieb:
...Well, that also depends on your expectations... if you reduce the ground floor by one meter, it works as well... the children’s rooms become a bit smaller... you give up the gallery and instead of about 60 square meters of living/dining/kitchen space, you have "only" 50 square meters. But you save 20-25 square meters of total house area... or am I missing something?We have also considered reducing it by half a meter, but we planned to have the dining table under the gallery, and otherwise it would get too tight with the staircase.
Thanks in advance...
face26 schrieb:
if you reduce the house length by one meter at the bottom [...] or am I missing something? Yes, that one meter also takes away space from the dining table. That will definitely cost you three seats.
The duplication of dressing room / changing room – although I’m not clear on the difference in their purposes – seems unnecessarily complicated to me.
Bean84 schrieb:
Yes, we want the gallery because we think it makes the house a bit more interesting... Like a thousand others, and just like that, originality is gone again. Actually, that would be a prime spot for an easy cut.
kaho674 schrieb:
I don’t see any further design errors at first glance. Oh yes, the location on the plot is a problem. That’s a driveway length like for a flag lot. I would quickly move the garage about a dozen feet closer to the street. Forget about the passage — you don’t unload laundry from the car there, and there are hand trucks for water crates.
And just like that, you can position the house more attractively, maybe with a bigger west-facing terrace, for example.
By the way, which doesn’t come across as extreme on the plan but is in reality: the huge roof overhang (yes, I did read the "BY") doesn’t fit at all with the modern façade and the ultra-low pitched roof. It’s going to look like fake acrylic nails. Not like the ones from Munich, but like those from Zenzi’s studio in Hintertupfing.
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11ant schrieb:
The duplication of the walk-in closet / changing room – and I’m not even clear on how their functions are divided – seems complicated to me. We thought it would allow a direct passage to the bathroom and a place to lay out clothes for the next day. But we already had concerns about the size. Like KAHO suggested, we might swap the walk-in closet with the bedroom and eliminate the changing room.
11ant schrieb:
Like a thousand others, and the originality is lost again. That would actually be a perfect spot for a painless removal. Yeah, well, it’s obviously not “never been done before,” but we just like the open concept…
11ant schrieb:
Oh yes, the location on the plot. It’s a driveway length like on a flag lot. I’d just move the garage a few meters closer to the street. Forget about the passage – you don’t unload laundry from the car, and there are hand trucks for water crates. Had to laugh out loud at that. Admittedly, the cost for paving stones is already giving us some headaches, but for my wife it’s important to come into the house with dry hair. So you’d place the garage at the bottom (street side) on the right?
11ant schrieb:
And suddenly, you can position the house nicer, with more of a west-facing terrace, for example.What do you mean? Rotate the house slightly to the left?
11ant schrieb:
Which doesn’t come across as crazy on the plan as it does in reality: the huge roof overhang. Thanks for your straightforward opinion. We saw that once in a show home. It’s supposed to be clad at the front with recessed spotlights installed.
The whole house could be moved closer to the street, and as suggested by 11ant, the garage could be placed in front and separated from the house. This would allow for a larger west-facing garden.
A terrace facing the street is a matter of preference. Either you have half the neighborhood looking onto your terrace, or you build it with privacy screens, which means a large part of the garden remains unused.
Apart from that, it gets quite warm or even hot in the south-southwest.
For this reason, our terrace is oriented to the north-northwest. Currently, we only get full sun from 3 p.m. onward, so there is less need to worry about protecting small children from the sun.
So far, we haven’t missed having a purely south-facing terrace. However, a small north-facing terrace will be added in the coming years.
A terrace facing the street is a matter of preference. Either you have half the neighborhood looking onto your terrace, or you build it with privacy screens, which means a large part of the garden remains unused.
Apart from that, it gets quite warm or even hot in the south-southwest.
For this reason, our terrace is oriented to the north-northwest. Currently, we only get full sun from 3 p.m. onward, so there is less need to worry about protecting small children from the sun.
So far, we haven’t missed having a purely south-facing terrace. However, a small north-facing terrace will be added in the coming years.
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