ᐅ How to modify a floor plan?

Created on: 21 Jun 2017 11:14
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arnonyme
Hello everyone,

I already posted a floor plan in the building costs forum.
There was a comment that the children's rooms are too small.
Yesterday, I visited a show home for a quote and took a look at the rooms there.

I have to admit, I was a bit shocked by the size of the children's rooms, which were about 11 sqm (118 sq ft). So, hardly smaller than what we have planned. It’s hard to imagine the room size just from the paper.

Do you have any ideas on how to enlarge the three children's rooms on the upper floor without completely changing the entire floor plan?

Or if you have any other criticism or suggestions for improvement, feel free to share.

Best regards,
Steffen

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tomtom7910 Nov 2017 11:06
I heard about 340 euros, know someone a few connections away who reserved one.

I know a few people who will become your neighbors, and one of them wants to rebuild.

No, I didn’t know that. Are you sure all the plots were handled that way?
I probably haven’t actually heard about it.
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arnonyme
10 Nov 2017 12:29
tomtom79 schrieb:
I’ve heard 340 euros, know someone indirectly who reserved one.
I know a few people who will become your neighbors, and one of them wants to rebuild.

No, I didn’t know that. Are you sure all the plots were handled that way?
Probably I really haven’t heard about it.

No, but that’s what is stated in the design guide. Maybe they changed it afterward since some houses have already been built that aren’t really ideal.

But 340 € (about $360) is still reasonable when you look at prices in the surrounding area and in the nearby new development in the southeast part of town.
Alex85 schrieb:
You’d have to ask your planner. For example, Rekers builds on a 50cm (20-inch) grid, I think.
I recently asked for a price for our project, 9 x 6 m (30 x 20 ft) with a large gate. 30,000 € (about $32,000) plus foundations. No thanks, you can keep it. Those things have too many disadvantages.
It will probably just be a carport, possibly made of steel.

Yes, but take a look at the garage—the back doesn’t have a 90-degree angle.
I don’t think they build something like that.
9 x 6 m (30 x 20 ft) is already quite large.
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Alex85
10 Nov 2017 15:10
arnonyme schrieb:
Yes, but just look at the garage, it doesn’t have a 90-degree angle at the back.
I don’t think they build something like that.
9*6m (30*20 feet) is already quite large though.

Ah sorry, that wasn’t easy to see quickly while on the move. Asking doesn’t hurt though.

Well, it’s actually 6x6 (double parking space) plus a 3x6 (10x20 feet) storage room attached at the back. That’s two garages side by side (“large space garage”) and one spanning across the back. But the price is crazy. Considering that from the outside you can always see that they are modules, plus they’re not waterproof, have condensation issues, ... no thanks. Worth a try, but just not worth the price.
tomtom7928 Dec 2017 14:28
And will it continue?
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arnonyme
28 Dec 2017 17:10
Yes, we have received the approval certificate.
However, the star architect from Tiergarten has made some further changes to the garage:
Site plan of a building plot with building structures and driveway


According to Reker’s garages, it’s not possible to build it as designed because the door would otherwise hit the wall. The door would have to be made narrower, which would mean that two cars would no longer fit inside the garage.

I explained this to the officials there, but they just wouldn’t listen. They want it exactly as planned, and we are not allowed to make any changes. Furthermore, the star architect from Tiergarten charged us nearly 1,000 € for this so-called “brilliant” solution.

We are seriously considering just abandoning this nonsense and buying a plot in Hegenach. Although the plot prices are higher there, it would ultimately be cheaper to build because the building regulations (building permit / planning permission) are much more flexible. I have already received a first quote for the garage: turnkey for nearly 54,000 €!!!

It is truly outrageous what’s being forced on us. We are being made to build an expensive, impractical solution that apparently doesn’t even work properly—and on top of that, we have to pay for their “famous” architect. What a classic case of nepotism...

But that’s not the only thing frustrating us. Our architect had a budget of about 400,000 € for the house, but the current quotes are over 500,000 € turnkey. Then there’s an additional 30,000 € for a botched garage...

I recently did a rough calculation of the construction costs again. In total, we would be at over 930,000 € for this whole mess. We had originally planned for 800,000 €.
11ant28 Dec 2017 19:41
arnonyme schrieb:
I explained this to the officials there, but they just turned a deaf ear.

I genuinely wish those idiots a client who has all the time in the world (and a lawyer like a bull terrier).
arnonyme schrieb:
Furthermore, the star architect from Tiergarten charged us nearly €1000 for this masterpiece.

Charging extra for something ridiculous—that’s a classic in the hospitality industry.

For those wanting to compare: in #142 on page 24 you can see the minimal change that caused this mess. You almost want to start a petition to create an academic degree of “Complete Idiot, honoris causa.”
arnonyme schrieb:
We are seriously considering just dropping this nonsense and buying a plot in Hegenach.

Honestly, that was already my thought when I first read the word “Gutbefund” (building survey report).
arnonyme schrieb:
Our architect had a budget of about 400k for the house.

Well then, I seem to recall there was already some doubt whether that budget would be sufficient. Even before adding extra costs for the design police’s special requests.
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