Hello everyone,
I already posted a floor plan in the building costs forum.
There was a comment that the children's rooms are too small.
Yesterday, I visited a show home for a quote and took a look at the rooms there.
I have to admit, I was a bit shocked by the size of the children's rooms, which were about 11 sqm (118 sq ft). So, hardly smaller than what we have planned. It’s hard to imagine the room size just from the paper.
Do you have any ideas on how to enlarge the three children's rooms on the upper floor without completely changing the entire floor plan?
Or if you have any other criticism or suggestions for improvement, feel free to share.
Best regards,
Steffen
I already posted a floor plan in the building costs forum.
There was a comment that the children's rooms are too small.
Yesterday, I visited a show home for a quote and took a look at the rooms there.
I have to admit, I was a bit shocked by the size of the children's rooms, which were about 11 sqm (118 sq ft). So, hardly smaller than what we have planned. It’s hard to imagine the room size just from the paper.
Do you have any ideas on how to enlarge the three children's rooms on the upper floor without completely changing the entire floor plan?
Or if you have any other criticism or suggestions for improvement, feel free to share.
Best regards,
Steffen
Oh dear
Not nice to hear! Especially for the price!
The garage is really unusable, is that a 4-meter (13 feet) drive-through, oh no...
For the door, there are alternatives that work like roller shutter boxes and therefore don’t require much depth.
Or maybe a completely different corner of foundation plate as an alternative?
Not nice to hear! Especially for the price!
The garage is really unusable, is that a 4-meter (13 feet) drive-through, oh no...
For the door, there are alternatives that work like roller shutter boxes and therefore don’t require much depth.
Or maybe a completely different corner of foundation plate as an alternative?
This is simply not suitable for a prefabricated building but requires a custom design, and it might not even be practical to construct it as a solid structure. It calls more for a carport with one open side or something similar.
These decision-making committees are also active here. However, previous projects have taught us how far you can push things and how such committees can derail construction projects, so in our development area the process runs a bit more smoothly. Apparently, this learning curve hasn’t happened in your area yet.
These decision-making committees are also active here. However, previous projects have taught us how far you can push things and how such committees can derail construction projects, so in our development area the process runs a bit more smoothly. Apparently, this learning curve hasn’t happened in your area yet.
No, they are completely unwilling to learn. The responsible caseworker even had the nerve to say on the phone that the plot requires a very special architectural design because of its shape.
She was subtly implying that you can’t do a standard design on the most expensive plot... Something like, if you have the money for the plot, then the garage doesn’t really matter.
They really don’t care at all. Several home builders have already dropped out because the level of involvement was much greater than initially expected.
What annoys me the most is that all the planning effort paid for by the home builders was basically wasted. For cases like ours, costs easily add up to $10,000. With independent architects, it’s probably considerably more.
She was subtly implying that you can’t do a standard design on the most expensive plot... Something like, if you have the money for the plot, then the garage doesn’t really matter.
They really don’t care at all. Several home builders have already dropped out because the level of involvement was much greater than initially expected.
What annoys me the most is that all the planning effort paid for by the home builders was basically wasted. For cases like ours, costs easily add up to $10,000. With independent architects, it’s probably considerably more.
tomtom79 schrieb:
There are alternatives for the gate that work like roller shutter boxes and therefore don’t require deep space. Roller doors, for example from Kaufmann in Köln-Rodenkirchen. Available in all sizes, for industrial use and with stylish designs.
Alex85 schrieb:
This simply isn’t suitable for a prefab unit but needs custom planning, and it might not even make sense to build it as a solid structure. Bims prefab buildings Hoffmann (not related or affiliated) in Neuwied-Heimbach, my recommendation especially for custom garages with non-parallel walls.
But I wouldn’t tinker with it at all, I’d rather pay my taxes to a more reasonable municipality.
Alex85 schrieb:
These participatory committees are active here as well. Only: with what legitimacy at all? – "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s" is sufficiently fulfilled with a zoning plan / building permit.
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The authorization comes directly from the city council. Here, they do tear up green areas for new constructions, which has taken years. The compromise was to create something high-quality, to take nature into account, to be extremely energy-efficient and so on. The committee itself is a private-law body, not a building authority, but without its approval, the city is not allowed to sell the property.
Such committees have existed in this region before. Designs were rejected, for example, because one of the participating artists did not like a window (floor-to-ceiling in the utility room). These are highly individual matters that were not previously part of the requirements list. That ends badly.
In another neighboring town, it was simply poorly organized. The committee met only once a quarter, and meetings were sometimes canceled. The following year, there was no budget planned for external consultants (it was assumed everything could be completed in one year, or four meetings), and this happened during budget restrictions.
As a result, the entire new development area stalled because nothing could be approved. Damage for the city, damage for the homeowners, who, like apo, had already invested in advance.
Such committees have existed in this region before. Designs were rejected, for example, because one of the participating artists did not like a window (floor-to-ceiling in the utility room). These are highly individual matters that were not previously part of the requirements list. That ends badly.
In another neighboring town, it was simply poorly organized. The committee met only once a quarter, and meetings were sometimes canceled. The following year, there was no budget planned for external consultants (it was assumed everything could be completed in one year, or four meetings), and this happened during budget restrictions.
As a result, the entire new development area stalled because nothing could be approved. Damage for the city, damage for the homeowners, who, like apo, had already invested in advance.
tomtom79 schrieb:
Oh dear
Not good to hear! Especially for the price!
The garage really isn’t usable, what, only 4 m (13 feet) drive-through space, oh no...
For the door, there are alternatives that work like a roller shutter housing and therefore don’t require much depth.
Or maybe a completely different corner of the plot as an alternative?Yes, that will probably be the outcome. The problem is that we are in the catchment area of Porsche, Bosch, and Daimler. As a result, plots and existing properties get sold very quickly. And I would like to be able to examine my place of residence, where I hopefully will live for the next 50 years, for more than just a few days.
11ant schrieb:
Well then, I seem to recall that the sufficiency of this budget was already questioned somewhat. Even without extra costs for the customization requests from the design bosses.Yes, I was aware of that too, but it doesn’t change the fact that the managing director of the architectural firm promised us the moon and stars.
We signed the planning contract in March. Shortly after, his son, who is the actual architect, fell ill. In recent months, only after my insistence did they engage another architect on a sort of subcontract basis.
By then, however, it was already too late to scrap everything and start over.
We received a cost estimate from him with a total volume of approximately 460,000 (460k) including incidental construction costs, garage, and outdoor facilities...
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