ᐅ Is it possible to determine the deductible costs with a rough estimate?
Created on: 28 Mar 2017 14:06
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mertmk3
Hello everyone,
Now that the land is almost definitely secured and we have had initial talks with architects, one of them appeals to us quite well. Only one question remains unclear: How high will the fee be? According to the architect, he will provide a detailed fee breakdown before each work package. However, this doesn’t help me because I need to know the approximate costs BEFORE commissioning in order to properly calculate the overall project budget. After using the HOAI calculators, I arrived at a fee of 61,000€ for a total sum of roughly 400,000€ despite the minimum rate! If that is really the case, I will quickly reconsider the idea of building with an architect. I assume that the 400,000€ total cost does not include all billable items and that I am probably making a mistake in calculating the fee. The question is: How can I estimate an architect’s fee based only on an approximate total amount without a detailed breakdown of the individual construction costs, so I can include it in my overall budget?
Can I ask the architect for a fee offer in advance, specifying what the fee would be based on the corresponding total amount?
Thanks for your advice!
Best regards
Martin
Now that the land is almost definitely secured and we have had initial talks with architects, one of them appeals to us quite well. Only one question remains unclear: How high will the fee be? According to the architect, he will provide a detailed fee breakdown before each work package. However, this doesn’t help me because I need to know the approximate costs BEFORE commissioning in order to properly calculate the overall project budget. After using the HOAI calculators, I arrived at a fee of 61,000€ for a total sum of roughly 400,000€ despite the minimum rate! If that is really the case, I will quickly reconsider the idea of building with an architect. I assume that the 400,000€ total cost does not include all billable items and that I am probably making a mistake in calculating the fee. The question is: How can I estimate an architect’s fee based only on an approximate total amount without a detailed breakdown of the individual construction costs, so I can include it in my overall budget?
Can I ask the architect for a fee offer in advance, specifying what the fee would be based on the corresponding total amount?
Thanks for your advice!
Best regards
Martin
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Goldi0911128 Mar 2017 16:42The architect can also charge less; in our case, the total is about 7%.
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Steffen8028 Mar 2017 16:44Goldi09111 schrieb:
The architect may also charge less; for us, it totals about 7%.Is that just for the architect? My 10–11% referred to all engineering services (e.g., soil surveys, surveyors, etc.).
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Goldi0911128 Mar 2017 17:40Only the architect levels 1-9.
Steffen80 schrieb:
Is that just the architect? My 10..11% referred to all engineering services (e.g., geotechnical report, surveyor, etc.)10-11% for all service phases including structural engineering, geotechnics, energy consulting, and surveying is quite a bargain! Is the guy always that affordable, or did he urgently need the job?
Grab an HOAI calculator and see what the minimum fee in fee zone 3 would be based on your costs...
That’s not correct. There are some local construction companies here that exclusively do custom designs and employ their own architect or planner.
Should I therefore expect that around €45,000–60,000 (approximately $48,000–64,000) is included in the house price, or are planning costs of this magnitude listed separately?
Are services like structural engineering, soil surveys, etc. generally not included in the service phases or in the 11% fee?
Should I therefore expect that around €45,000–60,000 (approximately $48,000–64,000) is included in the house price, or are planning costs of this magnitude listed separately?
Are services like structural engineering, soil surveys, etc. generally not included in the service phases or in the 11% fee?
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Steffen8028 Mar 2017 19:50Alex85 schrieb:
10-11% for all phases of work including structural engineering, soil analysis, energy consulting, and surveying is quite a bargain! Is he always this affordable, or did he urgently need the contract?
You might want to use a HOAI calculator to see what the minimum fee in fee zone 3 would be based on your costs...I’m also very happy with the price. In total, it was about 45,000 euros. We have to have saved somewhere after all. The rest was/ is expensive enough.
Regards, Steffen
PS: The guy is booked solid for the next 2 years and is “building” 7 houses on our street alone! Most of them are significantly larger and more expensive than ours.
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