ᐅ Is it possible to determine the deductible costs with a rough estimate?

Created on: 28 Mar 2017 14:06
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mertmk3
Hello everyone,

Now that the land is almost definitely secured and we have had initial talks with architects, one of them appeals to us quite well. Only one question remains unclear: How high will the fee be? According to the architect, he will provide a detailed fee breakdown before each work package. However, this doesn’t help me because I need to know the approximate costs BEFORE commissioning in order to properly calculate the overall project budget. After using the HOAI calculators, I arrived at a fee of 61,000€ for a total sum of roughly 400,000€ despite the minimum rate! If that is really the case, I will quickly reconsider the idea of building with an architect. I assume that the 400,000€ total cost does not include all billable items and that I am probably making a mistake in calculating the fee. The question is: How can I estimate an architect’s fee based only on an approximate total amount without a detailed breakdown of the individual construction costs, so I can include it in my overall budget?

Can I ask the architect for a fee offer in advance, specifying what the fee would be based on the corresponding total amount?

Thanks for your advice!

Best regards
Martin
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sven0924
28 Mar 2017 20:01
We also chose to work with an architect after consulting with various construction companies. We commissioned him step-by-step for each phase, which allowed us the option to withdraw if needed. Together, we selected the materials and finishes, and now the cost tendering process is underway. So far, we are very satisfied; he is very patient and also advises us on cost matters. The soil survey, site surveying, and the connection fees charged by utility providers are additional costs that we cover on top of the architect’s fee.
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mertmk3
28 Mar 2017 20:02
@Steffen80 What total costs are we talking about in your case?

In general: What are the eligible costs approximately for a total amount of 400,000 euros?
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Steffen80
28 Mar 2017 20:04
About 500,000 solely for the construction of the building and garage. Some items are not included because they were handled personally as part of self-performed work. Otherwise, it would be over 600,000. These are things like KNX, air conditioning, fireplace, etc.

Edit: If the construction costs are 400,000, then the costs are simply 400,000.
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Steffen80
28 Mar 2017 20:07
Correction: it wasn’t even 11% in our case. I really negotiated well there. Only about 9%
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Alex85
28 Mar 2017 20:12
Steffen80 schrieb:
We must have saved somewhere



It really sounds like a good deal if the gentleman is in such demand. Maybe he should consider adjusting his fee.
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mertmk3
28 Mar 2017 20:13
Alright, then I should stay well below 400,000€; otherwise, something doesn’t add up.

So your architect billed according to HOAI? Did they give you a fixed-price offer?