Hello everyone,
I’m trying to get an early start and am already thinking about the wiring for the house that doesn’t exist yet (bungalow is fine).
What I know so far:
A small server/media center will be installed later in the utility room. The network wiring should be done with CAT7.
Five network outlets are needed in the living room.
One outlet in each children’s bedroom/bedroom.
I would also like to equip the kitchen with two outlets. The bathroom will remain without any.
That’s about all for now.
I don’t have exact ideas yet on how I want to implement all of this.
Internet access is obvious. Running cables from the patch panel in the utility room to the rooms. Ideally, using dual-port network sockets (I don’t know the exact technical term, but I think you know what I mean).
That shouldn’t be a problem with CAT7, right?
I’m totally uncertain when it comes to the TV setup. Currently, we have IPTV (one channel for watching and one for recording) and are quite satisfied.
Unfortunately, according to the provider, we’ll only get a 16 Mbps connection later. IPTV will work with that, but when the kids get older and more people are using the network, I’ll really struggle.
So I’m trying to think ahead and am slowly considering a satellite dish. That would mean I’d need to run coaxial cables everywhere, right? Plus, a receiver for each.
How does that work? Can I place one receiver in the utility room and then run star-shaped cables from there to the rooms (kids will also want TV)? Or does each room need its own receiver, with a star setup running from the satellite dish?
I’m trying to get an early start and am already thinking about the wiring for the house that doesn’t exist yet (bungalow is fine).
What I know so far:
A small server/media center will be installed later in the utility room. The network wiring should be done with CAT7.
Five network outlets are needed in the living room.
One outlet in each children’s bedroom/bedroom.
I would also like to equip the kitchen with two outlets. The bathroom will remain without any.
That’s about all for now.
I don’t have exact ideas yet on how I want to implement all of this.
Internet access is obvious. Running cables from the patch panel in the utility room to the rooms. Ideally, using dual-port network sockets (I don’t know the exact technical term, but I think you know what I mean).
That shouldn’t be a problem with CAT7, right?
I’m totally uncertain when it comes to the TV setup. Currently, we have IPTV (one channel for watching and one for recording) and are quite satisfied.
Unfortunately, according to the provider, we’ll only get a 16 Mbps connection later. IPTV will work with that, but when the kids get older and more people are using the network, I’ll really struggle.
So I’m trying to think ahead and am slowly considering a satellite dish. That would mean I’d need to run coaxial cables everywhere, right? Plus, a receiver for each.
How does that work? Can I place one receiver in the utility room and then run star-shaped cables from there to the rooms (kids will also want TV)? Or does each room need its own receiver, with a star setup running from the satellite dish?
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StuttgartDHH31 Dec 2016 19:34Sorry for bringing up this old topic again.
However, I have gained new insights about my Triax SAT>IP converter and TVHeadend.
It seems I made a mistake during the setup of TVHeadend. Now I have redone the setup, and all TV and radio channels from Astra were found (including the encrypted ones, which would require a CI module for decryption).
This now allows me to display an EPG on compatible devices and schedule recordings automatically.
To use this setup with my TV, I got a mini-computer (Raspberry Pi) that functions as a media center.
It runs perfectly, and my wife likes it too (which is always important with these kinds of solutions).
However, I have to agree with an earlier comment from another forum member: it took some tinkering to get everything working. But now it’s running smoothly, and I can watch TV, listen to radio, and record everywhere without having to install a single SAT cable.
However, I have gained new insights about my Triax SAT>IP converter and TVHeadend.
It seems I made a mistake during the setup of TVHeadend. Now I have redone the setup, and all TV and radio channels from Astra were found (including the encrypted ones, which would require a CI module for decryption).
This now allows me to display an EPG on compatible devices and schedule recordings automatically.
To use this setup with my TV, I got a mini-computer (Raspberry Pi) that functions as a media center.
It runs perfectly, and my wife likes it too (which is always important with these kinds of solutions).
However, I have to agree with an earlier comment from another forum member: it took some tinkering to get everything working. But now it’s running smoothly, and I can watch TV, listen to radio, and record everywhere without having to install a single SAT cable.
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Goldi091111 Jan 2017 22:27I’ll jump in here since we are currently in the house planning phase.
I was thinking that if I place a SAT IP converter in the attic, I could automatically watch TV on all devices connected to the network. Of course, the box needs to be connected to the network.
I was thinking that if I place a SAT IP converter in the attic, I could automatically watch TV on all devices connected to the network. Of course, the box needs to be connected to the network.
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StuttgartDHH2 Jan 2017 12:31Goldi09111 schrieb:
I’m jumping in here since we are currently planning our house.
I thought if I set up a SAT>IP converter in the attic, I could automatically watch TV on all devices connected to the network? Of course, the box has to be connected to the network.There are basically two ways you can watch TV using a SAT>IP box.
Option 1: You use special SAT>IP clients. There are boxes that connect both to the network and the TV (for example, also from Triax) for watching TV. I don’t have one of these, and the reviews on Amazon are rather mixed.
Additionally, there is SAT>IP client software for PCs or Android devices. You can watch TV through these and get an electronic program guide (EPG).
I have such software (TVHeadend, which is free) installed on a small Linux device (NAS).
I’ve also tested similar software for Windows, which works reasonably well. But I prefer not to watch TV on my PC.
Option 2: The Triax SAT>IP server includes a built-in DLNA server. This streams channels to DLNA clients. Most (actually all) smart TVs have a DLNA client integrated. With that, you can play videos, music, etc., from DLNA servers. Sometimes this is also called “UPnP.”
Disadvantage: Since the channels appear as videos to the TV, there is no EPG.
There are also many DLNA clients for Android and iOS (some free). Windows Media Player has a built-in DLNA client, and I believe iTunes does as well.
At first, I had to use option 2, but now I use option 1.
If you don’t install TVHeadend on a “big” computer, you need to keep the respective device running continuously. In my case, the NAS is always on. It also acts as a video recorder. You can control everything, for example, via smartphone.
I use a Raspberry Pi as a TVHeadend client. It provides video recorder functionality, EPG, and delivers the channels to the TV. This device is about the size of a pack of cigarettes and very compact. It doesn’t even have a fan.
If that sounds like too many devices, you might be able to connect the Raspberry Pi directly to the SAT>IP server. However, I don’t know to what extent the necessary software is already available. Also, you would need to connect at least a large USB stick or similar to the Raspberry Pi to enable recordings.
So, your idea “I thought if I set up a SAT>IP converter in the attic, I could automatically watch TV on all devices connected to the network” is mostly correct with a small caveat: the devices must have a DLNA client. This is true for smart TVs, PS3, PS4, and most fairly recent Blu-ray players. For other devices (laptops, tablets, etc.), there are free DLNA clients available to install.
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Goldi091112 Jan 2017 22:57Thank you for the detailed information.
Then my assumption seems to be correct...
P.S. I still have a Raspberry lying around here.
Then my assumption seems to be correct...
P.S. I still have a Raspberry lying around here.
I originally planned to set up SAT over IP as well. By now, however, I’ve decided to skip it. There’s hardly anything worth watching on TV anyway, and the current model will be replaced by streaming and similar services in the coming years. For things like football, you can buy access to services like Zattoo or Waiku for a day, or use DVB-T2 if necessary.
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