ᐅ Flush-mounted SAT socket: Modem not working. Frequency filter?

Created on: 6 Jun 2016 08:39
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bluminger
Hello.

We have purchased a flush-mounted satellite socket[1]. The coaxial cable comes up from the basement to the next floor and then connects to this socket, where the cable modem is plugged in from the outside.
If we manually connect the cable from the basement directly to the modem cable, it works. However, it does not work when going through the socket. We tested two sockets, and neither worked.
Is it possible that there is a frequency filter inside that only allows TV frequencies to pass, but not the spectrum needed for the cable modem?
If so, what kind of socket would we need?

Thank you very much!


Metal lamp holder with cable connection and mounting tabs.
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86bibo
6 Jun 2016 11:44
There are end outlets and distribution outlets, each available with different attenuation levels. The system is not as straightforward as a satellite distribution or the distribution of a terrestrial rooftop antenna, because, as mentioned before, neighboring houses are also connected in the chain. Additional or different outlets can be connected, but they must be the correct ones. For this reason, the cable network operator usually handles this themselves.
Uwe826 Jun 2016 12:18
Alternatively, a terminator resistor is needed for a junction box. However, whether the cable is correct or not, the amplifier at the distribution point may need to be readjusted, but this must be done by a cable technician.
bluminger6 Jun 2016 14:23
OK.
To avoid issues with filters/dampening, it is best not to use such a junction box, but simply an F-connector coupling [1] for the two cables. This then acts as just a cable extension.

Does anyone happen to know if something like this is also available as a (flush-mounted) outlet?

Thanks.

Metal pipe plug with external thread and hex head
Uwe826 Jun 2016 14:37
bluminger schrieb:
Does anyone happen to know if something like that is also available as a (flush-mounted) box?

Then the best option is a cable outlet box. It still looks the best 😉.
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Gartenfreund
7 Jun 2016 06:36
You have purchased a satellite antenna outlet and want to connect a cable modem to it.

My question to the experts here is whether this can even work. Don't you need a special outlet for cable TV?
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Dipol
9 Jun 2016 20:36
bluminger schrieb:
We bought a recessed satellite (SAT) outlet box[1]. The coaxial cable comes up one floor from the basement, then goes into this box, where the cable modem is plugged in from the outside.

I can’t make sense of the item number without knowing the type of outlet. But if this box is truly a satellite outlet, it filters out return path signals from the F-connector and only passes satellite IF signals from 950 MHz upwards. That means it won’t work for your purpose.

By the way, the “ZZF” was a federal authority for broadcasting regulation that no longer exists. The federal eagle imprint is now just decorative and meant to impress non-experts.
bluminger schrieb:
If yes, what kind of outlet would we need?

In any case, you need a cable TV (CATV) outlet that meets the specifications of your network operator (KNB):
  • Future-proof with a wider CATV frequency range than the older usual 862 MHz limit
  • If your provider is Unitymedia, possibly a four-port modem outlet with two F-connectors, so that a Horizon box can also be connected

Whether you require a directional coupler pass-through outlet with a termination resistor or a drop/single outlet depends on the design of the broadband distribution cabinet. This depends on signal levels and can’t be reliably answered remotely. This is a task for your KNB’s installation partner, who will select the outlet to ensure compliance with the standard signal level windows.

Since the term “end outlet” came up in a post: drop or single outlets are often mistakenly called this. True modem end outlets are pass-through outlets internally terminated with a resistor, such as the AXING BSD 963-11 or WISI DB 09 M 0650 models.