ᐅ What rough costs should be planned for walls, ceilings, and outdoor areas?
Created on: 17 Nov 2017 10:49
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DennisK
I currently have an offer that already includes quite a few additional costs:
- Development costs (the plot is fully serviced)
- Commission (not applicable)
- Application fees (except for the carport)
- Utility connections
Basically, the statement is turnkey except for:
- Painting / carpet installation
-> The ceilings are not skim coated, but the walls in all rooms have a fine plaster finish Q2.
-> Additionally, the bathrooms, kitchen, hallway, and basement corridor will already be tiled.
- Exterior landscaping (desired: standard terrace, mostly lawn, some kind of privacy screen on the sides)
- Double carport
My question is what average costs I should expect for these items. I understand that it’s not possible to give an exact figure, but a range of about ±10,000 euros would be sufficient (if that is at least possible).
The following areas apply:
- Plot: approximately 450m² (about 4844 sq ft) for exterior landscaping
- Living spaces: approximately 80m² (about 861 sq ft)
- Bathroom/kitchen: approximately 30m² (about 323 sq ft)
On which amount is the property transfer tax / notary fees actually charged? Only on the finished part or also on the remaining work for which I am currently asking about the costs?
I would also appreciate any other tips (e.g., whether I am approaching this matter correctly).
- Development costs (the plot is fully serviced)
- Commission (not applicable)
- Application fees (except for the carport)
- Utility connections
Basically, the statement is turnkey except for:
- Painting / carpet installation
-> The ceilings are not skim coated, but the walls in all rooms have a fine plaster finish Q2.
-> Additionally, the bathrooms, kitchen, hallway, and basement corridor will already be tiled.
- Exterior landscaping (desired: standard terrace, mostly lawn, some kind of privacy screen on the sides)
- Double carport
My question is what average costs I should expect for these items. I understand that it’s not possible to give an exact figure, but a range of about ±10,000 euros would be sufficient (if that is at least possible).
The following areas apply:
- Plot: approximately 450m² (about 4844 sq ft) for exterior landscaping
- Living spaces: approximately 80m² (about 861 sq ft)
- Bathroom/kitchen: approximately 30m² (about 323 sq ft)
On which amount is the property transfer tax / notary fees actually charged? Only on the finished part or also on the remaining work for which I am currently asking about the costs?
I would also appreciate any other tips (e.g., whether I am approaching this matter correctly).
The pinned post in the construction costs section is not only about additional building expenses but also covers these types of costs. At least, I also mentioned flooring and garden there.
You will need splash protection around the exterior of the house, a terrace, and a driveway.
Go to the building materials supplier and ask about the price per square meter including the floor structure, or the cost per length for the splash protection. Naturally, everything depends on the materials used. For an average house and a driveway like xy, expect around 7,000 to 10,000.
Fencing costs are usually calculated by length; you can check what the hardware store offers. I would estimate installation costs at about a quarter of the material price. What you save there can be invested in planting.
You can see, a narrow carport right at the street is cheaper from the driveway perspective than a double carport located at the back of the property.
If you want to install tiles, you need to know which material. I would consult the tiler who will also lay the rest of the flooring and get a quote.
And so on: you really need to visit houses and check what materials are available—there is a wide range. Some things you can install yourself, others must be done professionally. About a quarter of the square meter price usually comes from adhesive and baseboards. Then just ask. A full quote is too much; a flat rate per square meter including baseboards, etc., is sufficient.
Regarding ceiling areas: the drywall under the roof is not finished with joint compound. It’s a lousy job but can be done by yourself; it’s not mandatory.
Double carport: search online for aluminum or wood, prefabricated products or custom carpentry, prices range from 300 to 12,000, with or without storage space.
Keep in mind: even if the quote includes the items mentioned…
What about the entrance canopy, entrance platform, controlled residential ventilation, burglar-resistant windows, laminated windows, roller shutters, electric operation?, exterior lighting, LAN connections, satellite TV, various sockets, two-way switches, ceiling spotlights, skylights, barrier-free shower, shower door, mirror, larger bathtub, second sink, vanity cabinet, aluminum edges, bathroom platforms, tile surcharges, sliding doors, alternative staircases, door handles… yes, I know: much of this is included in the house price. But what if you don’t like the standard?
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@Alex, private blogs and websites without commercial purposes don’t require an imprint.
You will need splash protection around the exterior of the house, a terrace, and a driveway.
Go to the building materials supplier and ask about the price per square meter including the floor structure, or the cost per length for the splash protection. Naturally, everything depends on the materials used. For an average house and a driveway like xy, expect around 7,000 to 10,000.
Fencing costs are usually calculated by length; you can check what the hardware store offers. I would estimate installation costs at about a quarter of the material price. What you save there can be invested in planting.
You can see, a narrow carport right at the street is cheaper from the driveway perspective than a double carport located at the back of the property.
If you want to install tiles, you need to know which material. I would consult the tiler who will also lay the rest of the flooring and get a quote.
And so on: you really need to visit houses and check what materials are available—there is a wide range. Some things you can install yourself, others must be done professionally. About a quarter of the square meter price usually comes from adhesive and baseboards. Then just ask. A full quote is too much; a flat rate per square meter including baseboards, etc., is sufficient.
Regarding ceiling areas: the drywall under the roof is not finished with joint compound. It’s a lousy job but can be done by yourself; it’s not mandatory.
Double carport: search online for aluminum or wood, prefabricated products or custom carpentry, prices range from 300 to 12,000, with or without storage space.
Keep in mind: even if the quote includes the items mentioned…
What about the entrance canopy, entrance platform, controlled residential ventilation, burglar-resistant windows, laminated windows, roller shutters, electric operation?, exterior lighting, LAN connections, satellite TV, various sockets, two-way switches, ceiling spotlights, skylights, barrier-free shower, shower door, mirror, larger bathtub, second sink, vanity cabinet, aluminum edges, bathroom platforms, tile surcharges, sliding doors, alternative staircases, door handles… yes, I know: much of this is included in the house price. But what if you don’t like the standard?
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@Alex, private blogs and websites without commercial purposes don’t require an imprint.
Not only a larger bathtub but also a steel enamel one with a pearl effect. Built-in fittings, rain showers, and also some extra budget for rimless toilets and 90–120cm (35–47 inches) furniture-style vanity units instead of 60cm (24 inches) washbasins. Overall, we had planned about 7k for plumbing (additional), and we are now at 10–11k.
LAN installation costs nearly 100 EUR per double socket including wiring, and we want LAN in almost every room, sometimes even multiple sockets in one room.
Excavation work can also be costly if the plot is not perfectly level, depending on the landscaping requirements. We will probably pay close to a five-figure sum just for soil disposal (including what had to be removed for the foundation slab and substructure).
Not everyone likes the standard staircase. Personally, we are not fans of beech wood either. You can definitely stain a staircase or choose a nicer model if the standard is, for example, a steel stringer staircase and that doesn’t suit you. Or a concrete staircase with wooden treads and risers...
Roller shutters are also available in aluminum or as aluminum venetian blinds.
Lightning protection costs 2,000 EUR.
The standard roofing material is usually concrete tiles. They are supposedly better than 10–15 years ago when they would turn green quite quickly. Still, we preferred clay roof tiles.
Just to add a few of our special requests to ypg’s list.
LAN installation costs nearly 100 EUR per double socket including wiring, and we want LAN in almost every room, sometimes even multiple sockets in one room.
Excavation work can also be costly if the plot is not perfectly level, depending on the landscaping requirements. We will probably pay close to a five-figure sum just for soil disposal (including what had to be removed for the foundation slab and substructure).
Not everyone likes the standard staircase. Personally, we are not fans of beech wood either. You can definitely stain a staircase or choose a nicer model if the standard is, for example, a steel stringer staircase and that doesn’t suit you. Or a concrete staircase with wooden treads and risers...
Roller shutters are also available in aluminum or as aluminum venetian blinds.
Lightning protection costs 2,000 EUR.
The standard roofing material is usually concrete tiles. They are supposedly better than 10–15 years ago when they would turn green quite quickly. Still, we preferred clay roof tiles.
Just to add a few of our special requests to ypg’s list.
ypg schrieb:
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@Alex, private blogs and websites without a commercial purpose do not require a legal notice.Wrong. According to §55 RStV, regularly published content that contributes to forming opinions requires one. Every blogger in this country is well advised to include a legal notice to avoid warnings. Your statement only refers to the TMG.
Alex85 schrieb:
Wrong. §55 RstV. Regularly published content that contributes to forming opinions. Nyah-nyah.
Every blogger in this country is well advised to have an imprint to avoid warnings. Your statement only refers to the TMG.Thank you for pointing out §55 RstV! I read through it and will probably update my imprint.
You could have spared the “nyah-nyah” — it comes across as schadenfreude and seems completely inappropriate to me.
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HilfeHilfe18 Nov 2017 07:19Back in 2013, we stayed away from such offers because the risk of underestimating costs and coordinating the trades was too high for us, even though they were the final ones. I never understood the general contractor’s motivation for not offering it.
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