ᐅ Smart Home Control Systems: Providers and User Experiences?

How beginner-friendly do you find Loxone? I’m not sure if I can manage it. But I’m not really confident in the RWE system; I think it’s actually quite rubbish…

RWE is designed to satisfy the playful side a bit and to show off to the neighbors... but how long the system will last is questionable... overall, it’s mostly much ado about nothing, since it’s just a huge corporation jumping on the bandwagon to get a piece of the pie...

As mentioned, Loxone is already a good solution for the average consumer... but here too, it’s uncertain how long it will remain on the market... however, I think there’s no need to worry about Loxone for the next 10 years...

@Eichhörnchen:
The Loxone website explains a lot under the 'Services' section. As a beginner, I wouldn’t recommend programming it yourself; that should be done by an electrician or a Loxone partner who plans together with the electrician. However, you should have a basic understanding to avoid planning that doesn’t meet your needs.
There is an app for smartphones or tablets that lets you control all the rooms, which a beginner can manage. You can simply download it and connect to a test server to get a feel for whether you can navigate the interface.

Otherwise, there is no need to "argue" about the number of push buttons; this is definitely very individual. Everyone is different, and there is certainly no one-size-fits-all solution. For example, my young daughter is currently a bit afraid when we play in the living room and the hallway is dark. Personally, when everyone else is asleep, I walk through completely dark hallways without any problem. Therefore, a standard switch makes sense for now. Without children, a motion sensor would certainly be useful, but only if it can distinguish between a cat and a person (since they don’t need extra light at night).

Mycraft schrieb:
That usually contradicts a “proper” installation. But yes, you can do it step by step if necessary... however, you really need to run all the cables beforehand and plan all the locations where you want to control something and what should be controlled... and of course also the sensors...

My idea so far was: To run a bus cable star-shaped to each outlet and the corresponding light, plus always a bus cable to the places where extras will be installed later.

Mycraft schrieb:
But many things simply can’t be added later… like lights/shutters, etc., first installed conventionally and later integrated into the bus system… that doesn’t work due to the completely different topology.

Here you say that it doesn’t work. Why do shutters and lights not work when first installed conventionally and later connected to the bus? The key point is that the bus is available on site, right?

Simon_SH schrieb:
Run a bus cable star-shaped to every power outlet and associated light, plus always a bus cable to the locations where extras will be installed later.

You don’t need a bus cable at the power outlets. Only at the switches and individual sensors.