ᐅ Single-family house approximately 155 sqm – located at the edge of open fields – any experiences or ideas?
Created on: 22 Jun 2018 13:52
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balbi21
Hello everyone,
I have been following this great forum for a while and would now like to share my current planning status – since many eyes can surely see more than just four.
We have been planning to build a house on a plot at the edge of a field (unfortunately facing rather east) – ideal for 2 people, but definitely suitable for 5 since my children from a previous marriage still visit regularly. Therefore, some rooms are planned as children’s rooms initially but should be usable later for other purposes (sauna, guest room, etc.).
At the moment, the land situation is still tricky and may take a few more weeks – so everything regarding the design is still open, meaning it is all still in the "pre-planning" stage...
We ourselves are two working adults who enjoy cooking, walking, and wellness – and need little “waste space.” However, there is an “inner conflict,” as one prefers open, spacious rooms while the other prefers a cozy atmosphere. After several attempts with an age-appropriate bungalow with a basement, and an urban villa with a hipped roof, we have currently settled on a “classic” detached house with a gable roof, but with a high knee wall (1.70m (5 ft 7 in)) as a compromise between coziness = sloped ceilings and open space = full ceiling height *g*.
More about us gladly in the discussion. I have now started with the questionnaire:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 700 sqm (7,535 sq ft)
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio: 0.30
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building plot, building line, and boundary: Building plot on the street side, field edge location, area towards the field to remain open for nature conservation/hedgerow. Building area approx. 500 sqm (5,382 sq ft) of the 700 sqm (7,535 sq ft) plot.
Edge construction: No special conditions
Number of parking spaces: 2 required
Number of floors: 2 full stories permitted
Roof shape: All types permitted
Style: Everything except log cabin houses permitted
Orientation: East-southeast
Maximum height/restrictions: Max height 9.5 m (31 ft 2 in)
Other requirements: Minimum 3 m (10 ft) distance from street to garage/building
Owners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Modern, clear, open: gable or hipped roof (possibly 2 shed roofs?), urban villa or classic detached house architecture
Basement, floors: Rather no basement, instead 2 floors + usable attic
Number of people, ages: 2 (around 40 years old) (+ 3 occasional visitors/kids aged 9, 12, 14)
Space Requirements on Ground and Upper Floors
Ground floor: Open living, dining, and kitchen area (generous kitchen + pantry?), office, utility/technical room, guest WC
Upper floor: Children's room 1 (later guest room), children’s room 2 (later sauna/gym), master bedroom, walk-in closet, bathroom
Office: Home office
Guests per year: 3 children (9, 12, 14), occasional guests
Open or closed architecture: Preferably airy and open
Conservative or modern construction: Rather modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Both options welcome
Number of dining seats: At least 6
Fireplace: Yes, preferably visible from living, dining, and kitchen areas
Music/sound system wall: No
Balcony, roof terrace: Not necessary, possibly a roof terrace on the garage?
Garage, carport: For 2 cars, possibly workbench, tools, bicycles
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine and reasons:
- Different work schedules require that one person can get up early, get dressed, and get ready while the other can continue sleeping
- The 3 children will eventually visit less regularly or no longer all at the same time -> rooms need to be usable long term and flexibly
House Design
Designed by: Basic design by a prefab house company, further modified by myself in SweetHome3D.
What do you like particularly? Why?
- Connecting garage to the main house (dry access with groceries)
- “Parents’ wing” (one door closed, no one getting into our closets or bedroom)
- Room usage concept (no rooms that become unnecessary later)
- Pantry behind kitchen (can house grain mill, non-decorative appliances, etc., in the back room)
- Office next to living room: During tax time, you’re not separated from your cooking partner and remain within calling distance without a walkie-talkie
What do you dislike? Why?
Pantry has no connection to the garage – open kitchen might be too small? (Bay window already enlarges the living space somewhat)
Price estimate according to architect/planner: about 400k
Personal price limit for house including fixtures: Would be nice to stay under 700k total costs including 150k for the plot...
Preferred heating system: fresh-air heat pump
What could you do without in detail/additions? Too many floor-to-ceiling windows.
What you cannot do without: open living/dining/kitchen area
Why did the design evolve this way?
Generation 5.5 house, Weberhaus as a base, changed in 3 discussions and personal work – after having first considered a bungalow with basement (first attempt) and then an urban villa (second attempt).
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Even if the house looks like a “standard model,” the details (I believe) are what make it somewhat special – it would be great to get tips and ideas on what we might have overlooked or forgotten in the planning and what we should consider, since it is so early in the design phase and we still have everything in hand...
I would appreciate creative suggestions, ideas, questions, etc. and look forward to the following discussion.
Best regards,
Björn
I have been following this great forum for a while and would now like to share my current planning status – since many eyes can surely see more than just four.
We have been planning to build a house on a plot at the edge of a field (unfortunately facing rather east) – ideal for 2 people, but definitely suitable for 5 since my children from a previous marriage still visit regularly. Therefore, some rooms are planned as children’s rooms initially but should be usable later for other purposes (sauna, guest room, etc.).
At the moment, the land situation is still tricky and may take a few more weeks – so everything regarding the design is still open, meaning it is all still in the "pre-planning" stage...
We ourselves are two working adults who enjoy cooking, walking, and wellness – and need little “waste space.” However, there is an “inner conflict,” as one prefers open, spacious rooms while the other prefers a cozy atmosphere. After several attempts with an age-appropriate bungalow with a basement, and an urban villa with a hipped roof, we have currently settled on a “classic” detached house with a gable roof, but with a high knee wall (1.70m (5 ft 7 in)) as a compromise between coziness = sloped ceilings and open space = full ceiling height *g*.
More about us gladly in the discussion. I have now started with the questionnaire:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 700 sqm (7,535 sq ft)
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio: 0.30
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building plot, building line, and boundary: Building plot on the street side, field edge location, area towards the field to remain open for nature conservation/hedgerow. Building area approx. 500 sqm (5,382 sq ft) of the 700 sqm (7,535 sq ft) plot.
Edge construction: No special conditions
Number of parking spaces: 2 required
Number of floors: 2 full stories permitted
Roof shape: All types permitted
Style: Everything except log cabin houses permitted
Orientation: East-southeast
Maximum height/restrictions: Max height 9.5 m (31 ft 2 in)
Other requirements: Minimum 3 m (10 ft) distance from street to garage/building
Owners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Modern, clear, open: gable or hipped roof (possibly 2 shed roofs?), urban villa or classic detached house architecture
Basement, floors: Rather no basement, instead 2 floors + usable attic
Number of people, ages: 2 (around 40 years old) (+ 3 occasional visitors/kids aged 9, 12, 14)
Space Requirements on Ground and Upper Floors
Ground floor: Open living, dining, and kitchen area (generous kitchen + pantry?), office, utility/technical room, guest WC
Upper floor: Children's room 1 (later guest room), children’s room 2 (later sauna/gym), master bedroom, walk-in closet, bathroom
Office: Home office
Guests per year: 3 children (9, 12, 14), occasional guests
Open or closed architecture: Preferably airy and open
Conservative or modern construction: Rather modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Both options welcome
Number of dining seats: At least 6
Fireplace: Yes, preferably visible from living, dining, and kitchen areas
Music/sound system wall: No
Balcony, roof terrace: Not necessary, possibly a roof terrace on the garage?
Garage, carport: For 2 cars, possibly workbench, tools, bicycles
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine and reasons:
- Different work schedules require that one person can get up early, get dressed, and get ready while the other can continue sleeping
- The 3 children will eventually visit less regularly or no longer all at the same time -> rooms need to be usable long term and flexibly
House Design
Designed by: Basic design by a prefab house company, further modified by myself in SweetHome3D.
What do you like particularly? Why?
- Connecting garage to the main house (dry access with groceries)
- “Parents’ wing” (one door closed, no one getting into our closets or bedroom)
- Room usage concept (no rooms that become unnecessary later)
- Pantry behind kitchen (can house grain mill, non-decorative appliances, etc., in the back room)
- Office next to living room: During tax time, you’re not separated from your cooking partner and remain within calling distance without a walkie-talkie
What do you dislike? Why?
Pantry has no connection to the garage – open kitchen might be too small? (Bay window already enlarges the living space somewhat)
Price estimate according to architect/planner: about 400k
Personal price limit for house including fixtures: Would be nice to stay under 700k total costs including 150k for the plot...
Preferred heating system: fresh-air heat pump
What could you do without in detail/additions? Too many floor-to-ceiling windows.
What you cannot do without: open living/dining/kitchen area
Why did the design evolve this way?
Generation 5.5 house, Weberhaus as a base, changed in 3 discussions and personal work – after having first considered a bungalow with basement (first attempt) and then an urban villa (second attempt).
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Even if the house looks like a “standard model,” the details (I believe) are what make it somewhat special – it would be great to get tips and ideas on what we might have overlooked or forgotten in the planning and what we should consider, since it is so early in the design phase and we still have everything in hand...
I would appreciate creative suggestions, ideas, questions, etc. and look forward to the following discussion.
Best regards,
Björn
Since there have been a few questions about this, here is an attempt to illustrate the location of the house on the plot (north is at the top)... the plot is approximately 17 meters by 40 meters (56 feet by 131 feet) – with the eastern 10 meters (33 feet) designated as a nature reserve.
Sorry if some parts seem a bit confusing – I think it’s difficult to explain all thoughts and details clearly in advance so that it forms a coherent picture. When some ideas and motivations behind the details only become clear later, it might give the impression of being “random”...
Still, I find the discussion very helpful and it has already made us more aware of several issues in the plans and generated ideas on how to improve some aspects. Many thanks for that.
Best regards,
Björn
Sorry if some parts seem a bit confusing – I think it’s difficult to explain all thoughts and details clearly in advance so that it forms a coherent picture. When some ideas and motivations behind the details only become clear later, it might give the impression of being “random”...
Still, I find the discussion very helpful and it has already made us more aware of several issues in the plans and generated ideas on how to improve some aspects. Many thanks for that.
Best regards,
Björn
Here is a suggestion with the technical room on the upper floor, while the electrical installations are excluded and planned to be located under the stairs. It would be important to know how much technical equipment is actually needed, as the room upstairs is not very large either.
There are already some great ideas here – even though it’s basically a completely newly designed floor plan.
Regarding the utility room: How much space should be planned if you want to accommodate:
- a Proxon FLWP unit
- a hot water storage tank
- a solar battery storage system
- a washing machine and dryer
- plus all the associated electronics and piping mounted on the walls for centralized network, home automation, solar system, etc.
Thank you very much and best regards,
Björn
Regarding the utility room: How much space should be planned if you want to accommodate:
- a Proxon FLWP unit
- a hot water storage tank
- a solar battery storage system
- a washing machine and dryer
- plus all the associated electronics and piping mounted on the walls for centralized network, home automation, solar system, etc.
Thank you very much and best regards,
Björn
Yes, these are questions best explored by the homeowner. Google is your friend.
We have just under 8m² (86 sq ft) for a geothermal heating system with an integrated 75 liter (20 gallon) hot water tank, water connection, electrical cabinet, a network cabinet for my partner’s hobbies, and a shelf that stores a lot of tools. The room is fully occupied. There would be no space left for a washing machine — ours is located separately upstairs, where the laundry is done.
The best approach is to sketch everything out and arrange it within the rooms—you still need access to everything! Gather measurements from online sources—and get started!
We have just under 8m² (86 sq ft) for a geothermal heating system with an integrated 75 liter (20 gallon) hot water tank, water connection, electrical cabinet, a network cabinet for my partner’s hobbies, and a shelf that stores a lot of tools. The room is fully occupied. There would be no space left for a washing machine — ours is located separately upstairs, where the laundry is done.
The best approach is to sketch everything out and arrange it within the rooms—you still need access to everything! Gather measurements from online sources—and get started!
kaho674 schrieb:
you have to be able to access it!Don’t forget maintenance clearances. With high voltage, the electrician should be able to step back quickly without hitting a wall. Just as an example that access for inspection alone is not enough.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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11ant schrieb:
With high voltage, it must be able to throw the electrician back without them hitting a wall. Just as an example that gynecological access options are not sufficient. Oh really? A large flight curve when being thrown back is healthier for the electrician than sliding down a wall like jam? Interesting!
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