ᐅ Single-family house approximately 155 sqm – located at the edge of open fields – any experiences or ideas?
Created on: 22 Jun 2018 13:52
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balbi21
Hello everyone,
I have been following this great forum for a while and would now like to share my current planning status – since many eyes can surely see more than just four.
We have been planning to build a house on a plot at the edge of a field (unfortunately facing rather east) – ideal for 2 people, but definitely suitable for 5 since my children from a previous marriage still visit regularly. Therefore, some rooms are planned as children’s rooms initially but should be usable later for other purposes (sauna, guest room, etc.).
At the moment, the land situation is still tricky and may take a few more weeks – so everything regarding the design is still open, meaning it is all still in the "pre-planning" stage...
We ourselves are two working adults who enjoy cooking, walking, and wellness – and need little “waste space.” However, there is an “inner conflict,” as one prefers open, spacious rooms while the other prefers a cozy atmosphere. After several attempts with an age-appropriate bungalow with a basement, and an urban villa with a hipped roof, we have currently settled on a “classic” detached house with a gable roof, but with a high knee wall (1.70m (5 ft 7 in)) as a compromise between coziness = sloped ceilings and open space = full ceiling height *g*.
More about us gladly in the discussion. I have now started with the questionnaire:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 700 sqm (7,535 sq ft)
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio: 0.30
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building plot, building line, and boundary: Building plot on the street side, field edge location, area towards the field to remain open for nature conservation/hedgerow. Building area approx. 500 sqm (5,382 sq ft) of the 700 sqm (7,535 sq ft) plot.
Edge construction: No special conditions
Number of parking spaces: 2 required
Number of floors: 2 full stories permitted
Roof shape: All types permitted
Style: Everything except log cabin houses permitted
Orientation: East-southeast
Maximum height/restrictions: Max height 9.5 m (31 ft 2 in)
Other requirements: Minimum 3 m (10 ft) distance from street to garage/building
Owners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Modern, clear, open: gable or hipped roof (possibly 2 shed roofs?), urban villa or classic detached house architecture
Basement, floors: Rather no basement, instead 2 floors + usable attic
Number of people, ages: 2 (around 40 years old) (+ 3 occasional visitors/kids aged 9, 12, 14)
Space Requirements on Ground and Upper Floors
Ground floor: Open living, dining, and kitchen area (generous kitchen + pantry?), office, utility/technical room, guest WC
Upper floor: Children's room 1 (later guest room), children’s room 2 (later sauna/gym), master bedroom, walk-in closet, bathroom
Office: Home office
Guests per year: 3 children (9, 12, 14), occasional guests
Open or closed architecture: Preferably airy and open
Conservative or modern construction: Rather modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Both options welcome
Number of dining seats: At least 6
Fireplace: Yes, preferably visible from living, dining, and kitchen areas
Music/sound system wall: No
Balcony, roof terrace: Not necessary, possibly a roof terrace on the garage?
Garage, carport: For 2 cars, possibly workbench, tools, bicycles
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine and reasons:
- Different work schedules require that one person can get up early, get dressed, and get ready while the other can continue sleeping
- The 3 children will eventually visit less regularly or no longer all at the same time -> rooms need to be usable long term and flexibly
House Design
Designed by: Basic design by a prefab house company, further modified by myself in SweetHome3D.
What do you like particularly? Why?
- Connecting garage to the main house (dry access with groceries)
- “Parents’ wing” (one door closed, no one getting into our closets or bedroom)
- Room usage concept (no rooms that become unnecessary later)
- Pantry behind kitchen (can house grain mill, non-decorative appliances, etc., in the back room)
- Office next to living room: During tax time, you’re not separated from your cooking partner and remain within calling distance without a walkie-talkie
What do you dislike? Why?
Pantry has no connection to the garage – open kitchen might be too small? (Bay window already enlarges the living space somewhat)
Price estimate according to architect/planner: about 400k
Personal price limit for house including fixtures: Would be nice to stay under 700k total costs including 150k for the plot...
Preferred heating system: fresh-air heat pump
What could you do without in detail/additions? Too many floor-to-ceiling windows.
What you cannot do without: open living/dining/kitchen area
Why did the design evolve this way?
Generation 5.5 house, Weberhaus as a base, changed in 3 discussions and personal work – after having first considered a bungalow with basement (first attempt) and then an urban villa (second attempt).
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Even if the house looks like a “standard model,” the details (I believe) are what make it somewhat special – it would be great to get tips and ideas on what we might have overlooked or forgotten in the planning and what we should consider, since it is so early in the design phase and we still have everything in hand...
I would appreciate creative suggestions, ideas, questions, etc. and look forward to the following discussion.
Best regards,
Björn
I have been following this great forum for a while and would now like to share my current planning status – since many eyes can surely see more than just four.
We have been planning to build a house on a plot at the edge of a field (unfortunately facing rather east) – ideal for 2 people, but definitely suitable for 5 since my children from a previous marriage still visit regularly. Therefore, some rooms are planned as children’s rooms initially but should be usable later for other purposes (sauna, guest room, etc.).
At the moment, the land situation is still tricky and may take a few more weeks – so everything regarding the design is still open, meaning it is all still in the "pre-planning" stage...
We ourselves are two working adults who enjoy cooking, walking, and wellness – and need little “waste space.” However, there is an “inner conflict,” as one prefers open, spacious rooms while the other prefers a cozy atmosphere. After several attempts with an age-appropriate bungalow with a basement, and an urban villa with a hipped roof, we have currently settled on a “classic” detached house with a gable roof, but with a high knee wall (1.70m (5 ft 7 in)) as a compromise between coziness = sloped ceilings and open space = full ceiling height *g*.
More about us gladly in the discussion. I have now started with the questionnaire:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 700 sqm (7,535 sq ft)
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio: 0.30
Floor area ratio: 0.45
Building plot, building line, and boundary: Building plot on the street side, field edge location, area towards the field to remain open for nature conservation/hedgerow. Building area approx. 500 sqm (5,382 sq ft) of the 700 sqm (7,535 sq ft) plot.
Edge construction: No special conditions
Number of parking spaces: 2 required
Number of floors: 2 full stories permitted
Roof shape: All types permitted
Style: Everything except log cabin houses permitted
Orientation: East-southeast
Maximum height/restrictions: Max height 9.5 m (31 ft 2 in)
Other requirements: Minimum 3 m (10 ft) distance from street to garage/building
Owners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Modern, clear, open: gable or hipped roof (possibly 2 shed roofs?), urban villa or classic detached house architecture
Basement, floors: Rather no basement, instead 2 floors + usable attic
Number of people, ages: 2 (around 40 years old) (+ 3 occasional visitors/kids aged 9, 12, 14)
Space Requirements on Ground and Upper Floors
Ground floor: Open living, dining, and kitchen area (generous kitchen + pantry?), office, utility/technical room, guest WC
Upper floor: Children's room 1 (later guest room), children’s room 2 (later sauna/gym), master bedroom, walk-in closet, bathroom
Office: Home office
Guests per year: 3 children (9, 12, 14), occasional guests
Open or closed architecture: Preferably airy and open
Conservative or modern construction: Rather modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Both options welcome
Number of dining seats: At least 6
Fireplace: Yes, preferably visible from living, dining, and kitchen areas
Music/sound system wall: No
Balcony, roof terrace: Not necessary, possibly a roof terrace on the garage?
Garage, carport: For 2 cars, possibly workbench, tools, bicycles
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine and reasons:
- Different work schedules require that one person can get up early, get dressed, and get ready while the other can continue sleeping
- The 3 children will eventually visit less regularly or no longer all at the same time -> rooms need to be usable long term and flexibly
House Design
Designed by: Basic design by a prefab house company, further modified by myself in SweetHome3D.
What do you like particularly? Why?
- Connecting garage to the main house (dry access with groceries)
- “Parents’ wing” (one door closed, no one getting into our closets or bedroom)
- Room usage concept (no rooms that become unnecessary later)
- Pantry behind kitchen (can house grain mill, non-decorative appliances, etc., in the back room)
- Office next to living room: During tax time, you’re not separated from your cooking partner and remain within calling distance without a walkie-talkie
What do you dislike? Why?
Pantry has no connection to the garage – open kitchen might be too small? (Bay window already enlarges the living space somewhat)
Price estimate according to architect/planner: about 400k
Personal price limit for house including fixtures: Would be nice to stay under 700k total costs including 150k for the plot...
Preferred heating system: fresh-air heat pump
What could you do without in detail/additions? Too many floor-to-ceiling windows.
What you cannot do without: open living/dining/kitchen area
Why did the design evolve this way?
Generation 5.5 house, Weberhaus as a base, changed in 3 discussions and personal work – after having first considered a bungalow with basement (first attempt) and then an urban villa (second attempt).
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Even if the house looks like a “standard model,” the details (I believe) are what make it somewhat special – it would be great to get tips and ideas on what we might have overlooked or forgotten in the planning and what we should consider, since it is so early in the design phase and we still have everything in hand...
I would appreciate creative suggestions, ideas, questions, etc. and look forward to the following discussion.
Best regards,
Björn
I see several issues to address here:
- Dining area is too small
- No cloakroom at all
- Utility and technical room are much too small
- Pantry door disrupts the kitchen layout awkwardly
- Upper floor bathroom can only be accessed through the private dressing room – guests have to go downstairs?
- Sauna should ideally be next to the bathroom or even better integrated into it
- Access through the technical room is 2m (6.5 feet) away from the main entrance – that doesn’t make sense. Better: a covered entrance area
- Garage driveway is too close to the platform. When parking the second car, you frequently scrape the tire against the platform edge
If I were you, I would consider relocating the technical room upstairs. You have spare rooms up there, which you’re already worried might go unused. In return, I would add a cloakroom on the ground floor, move the toilet and pantry, and widen the kitchen (I would extend it to the full width of the bay window, depending on the kitchen layout). This would create plenty of room for a large, beautiful dining table as a central feature when the children visit.
I would move the fireplace into the hallway, and in doing so, create a storage closet, also including the space under the stairs. This way, only the glass fronts of the fireplace would be visible from the living room.
On the upper floor, I would create a separate entrance to the bathroom for guests. By relocating the door, you also gain more usable space in your dressing room. The sauna should be integrated into the bathroom (replan the bathroom layout!). When the guests are away, I would use the guest room as a studio.
This is a rough sketch made quickly, so there are certainly opportunities for further fine-tuning:
- Dining area is too small
- No cloakroom at all
- Utility and technical room are much too small
- Pantry door disrupts the kitchen layout awkwardly
- Upper floor bathroom can only be accessed through the private dressing room – guests have to go downstairs?
- Sauna should ideally be next to the bathroom or even better integrated into it
- Access through the technical room is 2m (6.5 feet) away from the main entrance – that doesn’t make sense. Better: a covered entrance area
- Garage driveway is too close to the platform. When parking the second car, you frequently scrape the tire against the platform edge
If I were you, I would consider relocating the technical room upstairs. You have spare rooms up there, which you’re already worried might go unused. In return, I would add a cloakroom on the ground floor, move the toilet and pantry, and widen the kitchen (I would extend it to the full width of the bay window, depending on the kitchen layout). This would create plenty of room for a large, beautiful dining table as a central feature when the children visit.
I would move the fireplace into the hallway, and in doing so, create a storage closet, also including the space under the stairs. This way, only the glass fronts of the fireplace would be visible from the living room.
On the upper floor, I would create a separate entrance to the bathroom for guests. By relocating the door, you also gain more usable space in your dressing room. The sauna should be integrated into the bathroom (replan the bathroom layout!). When the guests are away, I would use the guest room as a studio.
This is a rough sketch made quickly, so there are certainly opportunities for further fine-tuning:
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Deliverer25 Jun 2018 12:03That looks good, Katja, but I believe if he had wanted to leave out a guest room, the floor plan would have been different from the start...
Deliverer schrieb:
That looks good, Katja, but I think if he had wanted to leave out a guest room, the floor plan would have been different from the start... Exactly.
If you need two guest rooms at the same time, I would consider separating off the study downstairs and adding a shower to the bathroom.
kbt09 schrieb:
@kaho674 .. Katja, but currently one room is missing, right? For the future, I would also plan the sauna in the room next to the bathroom in the current layout. And have a wall opening prepared there as well. As I said, there are two adults, and the children are guests, if I understand correctly. So I would plan a large guest room upstairs (for 2 children) and use the downstairs office optionally as a second guest room with a shower in the guest bathroom. The guest room upstairs I would use as a studio once the children have moved out, and the room downstairs again as an office. Much more important in the future will be the large dining table that can quickly seat 12 people, because when the children are older, they rarely stay overnight but like to come for meals.
balbi21 schrieb:
when the regular visits become less frequent and not all at the same time anymore... balbi21 schrieb:
we don’t play there – we mostly play "board games" at the table Maybe visits will even increase later on if there is a computer room
balbi21 schrieb:
We thought it would be practical to have a door into the garage – [...] – so you don’t always have to open a 5m (16 ft) wide door just to grab something... That’s a sensible idea, so you don’t have to raise an entire garage wall for every little thing.
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