Hello,
I am currently planning the recessed downlights on the ground floor. I learned that I need to use a mounting housing to avoid interference with the insulation. Now I have noticed that, for example, Bromberg indicates that the recessed light must not be installed in a mounting box.
I want to install recessed spotlights of this type with GU10 bulbs in 5 and 8 watts, depending on the lighting requirements.
I need your help with this. Which recessed light fixtures are approved for use with the mounting housing?
It is important to me that the fixtures can be replaced, or that I can purchase recessed spots without bulbs to allow for variation.
Are there more affordable mounting housings than those from Kaiser, and which ones would you recommend?
Thank you for your feedback.
I am currently planning the recessed downlights on the ground floor. I learned that I need to use a mounting housing to avoid interference with the insulation. Now I have noticed that, for example, Bromberg indicates that the recessed light must not be installed in a mounting box.
I want to install recessed spotlights of this type with GU10 bulbs in 5 and 8 watts, depending on the lighting requirements.
I need your help with this. Which recessed light fixtures are approved for use with the mounting housing?
It is important to me that the fixtures can be replaced, or that I can purchase recessed spots without bulbs to allow for variation.
Are there more affordable mounting housings than those from Kaiser, and which ones would you recommend?
Thank you for your feedback.
I can’t give a definitive answer, but if I were you, I would be careful about installing the recessed lights without a junction box, especially if the insulation might be in direct contact with them.
As far as I know, LED downlights (especially retrofit GU10 types) do generate some heat—not as much as halogen or similar, but still enough that it needs to be dissipated. If this doesn’t happen, at least the light source’s lifespan will be negatively affected.
If I were you, I would just ask the electrician, architect, general contractor, or whoever is responsible how to properly install this.
After a quick search, I’m quite sure that having junction boxes is at least advisable. Alternatively, there are also spacers available to prevent the insulation from touching the light fixture. Just maintaining some distance should be enough.
As far as I know, LED downlights (especially retrofit GU10 types) do generate some heat—not as much as halogen or similar, but still enough that it needs to be dissipated. If this doesn’t happen, at least the light source’s lifespan will be negatively affected.
If I were you, I would just ask the electrician, architect, general contractor, or whoever is responsible how to properly install this.
After a quick search, I’m quite sure that having junction boxes is at least advisable. Alternatively, there are also spacers available to prevent the insulation from touching the light fixture. Just maintaining some distance should be enough.
We used Thermo-X boxes from Kaiser because we needed to ensure airtightness. This was specified by the general contractor and confirmed by two electricians.
I can't prove it, but my feeling is that I would use a box if insulation is placed directly behind it, just like in our case. Pressing the spotlights directly into the insulation would be uncomfortable for me.
Regards,
Christian
I can't prove it, but my feeling is that I would use a box if insulation is placed directly behind it, just like in our case. Pressing the spotlights directly into the insulation would be uncomfortable for me.
Regards,
Christian
seat88 schrieb:
Well, with LEDs you probably don’t need recessed lighting housings because they don’t get hot.Not really? So why all the heat sinks around them then? Depending on the design, they can get quite warm and, if in direct contact, can easily melt the vapor barrier.
frank_gayer schrieb:
So I can definitely install them without planning even if there is insulation material or insulation foil directly behind?No, you can’t... just use Kaiser ThermoX and you’ll be on the safe side.
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frank_gayer12 Oct 2017 11:00How should I install the boxes in a closed ceiling? Do I then have to use the cover plate?
Cut the installation opening, insert the housing from below, and secure it with the quick-lock fastener. The housing is decoratively covered with the KAISER decorative cover plate and the luminaire.
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frank_gayer12 Oct 2017 11:12I need to do it from below, and with the fascia, it looks poor.
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