ᐅ Issue with connecting sink to wastewater pipe/drain

Created on: 5 Aug 2015 13:32
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Greg1980
Hello everyone,

As a non-professional in plumbing, I have a question whether anyone is familiar with this or knows a solution for the following problem.

I recently bought new bathroom furniture including a sink at a furniture store, and these items were delivered by their company. The in-house technicians installed everything, including the water connection for the sink. Unfortunately, the technician/installer had significant difficulties attaching the drain to the sink because he couldn’t properly fit the parts together and didn’t know how to do it – supposedly it’s a new type of drain.

Now, when the temperature rises, there is a bad smell coming from the sink drain. The sink has NO overflow, and as far as I can tell, there is no proper trap installed. (Previously, we had a different sink with a trap, and there were no issues with unpleasant odors.) You can also clearly hear noises coming from the pipe when a neighbor one floor above drains water from their sink and it rushes through the pipe.

I have the impression that the connection between the sink and the drain pipe inside the wall is not sealed by water (as in a trap), allowing noises from the pipe to travel through the connection pipe from the sink drain into the bathroom.

I’m attaching two pictures to at least illustrate the situation from the outside.

Can anyone tell me what is missing or what might have been installed incorrectly, if this can be determined from the pictures at all?

Thanks and best regards,
Gregor

Visible trap drain pipe under the sink with shut-off valve and plastic parts.


Chrome drain pipes, valves, and hoses under the kitchen sink; towels
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Greg1980
5 Aug 2015 14:28
Hello everyone,

thanks for your help. So why did the installers fit that long white pipe under my washbasins? Water actually flows into it when I pull the plug to stop the water from draining. Maybe they installed it completely incorrectly?

Both traps, as far as I can see, would fit in my case. I will send this to the installers in advance so they bring the appropriate materials.

Thanks again.

Best regards,
Gregor
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alexm86
5 Aug 2015 14:47
I did some research; the "white long thing" is actually a flat siphon, and it was probably installed incorrectly.

PVC and copper drain and supply pipes visible under the sink.
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Greg1980
5 Aug 2015 15:34
Thanks for your effort. It definitely must be installed incorrectly because it does not hold back any water to act as a trap for odors. It only does that when I pull the "plug." The technicians apparently had never seen this device or a siphon like it before (they only knew the traditional standard siphon—I didn’t either, by the way, but I’m not a professional). Therefore, I am sure they did something wrong.

Thanks again.

Regards,
Gregor
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toxicmolotof
5 Aug 2015 16:54
The issue with this washbasin is the combination of the trap and the drawer. A standard, traditional trap simply doesn’t fit. Either a flat type like the one you seem to have, which appears to be incorrectly installed, or something like what Alex posted, where the trap (of whatever design) is relocated to the wall.

Question: which plug are you referring to and where is it located? Some flat traps (I know this from showers) have a plug to disable the trap function. This is used, for example, during pipe cleaning, so that the cleaning rod doesn’t have to pass through the trap (which is impossible).
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Greg1980
5 Aug 2015 17:38
Hi,

I meant the lever that you operate to stop running water from draining out of the sink. The lever is located behind the faucet. I can’t say exactly where it leads, but definitely behind the trap.

So far, I haven’t seen a plug on the flat trap.

One more question: is it correct to say “trap” or “siphon”?

Thanks and good luck
Gregor
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toxicmolotof
5 Aug 2015 17:50
Ask Mr. Duden about the correct spelling.

Ikea also solves this by having a setback towards the back.

Somehow you need to ensure that the trap collects water, creating an airtight seal. Maybe it was installed the wrong way around?