ᐅ Ikea siphon ventilation/drainage problem. It causes unpleasant odors.
Created on: 30 Nov 2010 14:01
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toll_dreist
Hello IKEA fans,
I’m usually a big IKEA user, but I’ve run into a problem with the Atlant siphon:
Under the kitchen sink, I wanted to create space for three separate bins for waste sorting, so I built the entire Atlant siphon system very compactly. However, when someone on a lower floor, for example, flushes the toilet or drains the shower, a vacuum pulls the water out of the siphon, causing bad odors to spread throughout the kitchen. It doesn’t happen all the time, but quite often. We live in a three-unit building, and we are on the ground floor and basement level. It could also be a neighbor above us who drains their bathtub, which “sucks dry” the siphon. The smell gets slightly better then but still somewhat unusual.
Maybe you have a tip? I understand IKEA no longer offers a service hotline like before. What did I do wrong? What do you think? I’d appreciate it if someone could share their expertise. Best regards, toll_dreist
I’m usually a big IKEA user, but I’ve run into a problem with the Atlant siphon:
Under the kitchen sink, I wanted to create space for three separate bins for waste sorting, so I built the entire Atlant siphon system very compactly. However, when someone on a lower floor, for example, flushes the toilet or drains the shower, a vacuum pulls the water out of the siphon, causing bad odors to spread throughout the kitchen. It doesn’t happen all the time, but quite often. We live in a three-unit building, and we are on the ground floor and basement level. It could also be a neighbor above us who drains their bathtub, which “sucks dry” the siphon. The smell gets slightly better then but still somewhat unusual.
Maybe you have a tip? I understand IKEA no longer offers a service hotline like before. What did I do wrong? What do you think? I’d appreciate it if someone could share their expertise. Best regards, toll_dreist
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rafael19665 Dec 2010 21:44Hello!
...so, what was the problem?
Regards
...so, what was the problem?
Regards
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Maverick18546 Dec 2010 06:46How about the trap’s odor seal? Is it working properly? How long have you had the trap? Could it be that the trap's water seal is empty because it’s installed at an angle? When was the last time you cleaned it?
So many questions...
I don’t think the smell is coming from below, but rather from your trap. And if the odors are coming from somewhere else, then the trap’s odor seal isn’t functioning properly—so it’s worth checking. Unscrew the cover of the trap to check for odor there. Just don’t forget to place a bucket underneath.
So many questions...
I don’t think the smell is coming from below, but rather from your trap. And if the odors are coming from somewhere else, then the trap’s odor seal isn’t functioning properly—so it’s worth checking. Unscrew the cover of the trap to check for odor there. Just don’t forget to place a bucket underneath.
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toll_dreist6 Dec 2010 13:02Hello!
...so, what was the problem?
RegardsI haven’t solved this yet, nor had it solved by anyone else. If a solution emerges, I will share it as well. It still smelled unpleasant. I haven’t hired a plumber yet, but they are currently busy with the pre-Christmas rush (VWS).
Best regards,
toll_dreist
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toll_dreist6 Dec 2010 13:09[Quote]
Yes, I will try to position the siphon horizontally. NORMALLY, the siphon is installed lower than the outgoing drain pipe, but the instructions didn’t require that here; in fact, it was rather the opposite, with that option crossed out.Even if this issue may already be resolved, I think you misinterpreted the crossed-out diagram. To me, it looks more like the hose should not sag downwards.
Could the hose be turned backwards so that it leads directly into the drain pipe?
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That’s not a bad idea either.
And of course, having a sagging hose is actually incorrect. Because it could eventually break. But it would create a sort of "fake siphon," since the odor trap would then be inside the pipe. At least, that’s how I imagine it. But it’s not a proper solution, that’s true.
Routing the pipe straight into the wall is, as I said, not a bad idea, but it’s probably too tight. If I check it, I would have to irreversibly shorten the flexible hose section. Where exactly do you see the benefit? Is the problem in the bend?
Best regards,
toll_dreist
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toll_dreist6 Dec 2010 13:16How about the odor trap in the siphon? Is it working properly? How long have you had the siphon installed? Could it be that the odor trap in the siphon is not filled with water because the unit is tilted? When was the last time you cleaned it?
So many questions....
I don’t think the smell is coming from below, but rather from your siphon itself. And if the odors come from somewhere else, then the odor trap is not functioning correctly, so it’s worth checking. Unscrew the cover of the trap and smell inside. But don’t forget to place a bucket underneath.The siphon has smelled bad from the very beginning. Basically from day one, about 2 years ago when moving into the new rental apartment and after I installed it myself. The siphon is actually now straight. It might be off by about 1–2 mm (0.04–0.08 inches). But that shouldn’t be the issue, right? I haven’t cleaned it yet, actually. I’ll try that, but I don’t expect much improvement. There must be water in it, because you can hear it being sucked away before the smell forms.
Could it be that, due to the house’s design, the Ikea siphon is simply not suitable?
Best regards,
Toll
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