Hello everyone,
I have read a lot about this topic, but I’m still not any wiser. Here in Munich, we generally have the problem that plots of land are very scarce and expensive. Now we have found an offer for a plot measuring 420 m² (4,520 sq ft), and the house plan is already finalized. Our question is whether we should invest an additional 33,000 euros in building a solid construction house (massive house) with 190 m² (2,045 sq ft) of living space or not. The following questions are on my mind:
1.) I was told that achieving KfW 40 energy efficiency standard is not possible with a solid construction house. Why exactly is that?
2.) Is a solid construction house really more expensive? I have read everywhere that prefab houses are more costly.
3.) I find it hard to create a checklist comparing the advantages and disadvantages of the two building methods. In my mind, I only think: if there is a fire, I won’t have a house afterward. But how stable is wood compared to stone?
Could someone please help me with this?
Good luck
Yasemin
I have read a lot about this topic, but I’m still not any wiser. Here in Munich, we generally have the problem that plots of land are very scarce and expensive. Now we have found an offer for a plot measuring 420 m² (4,520 sq ft), and the house plan is already finalized. Our question is whether we should invest an additional 33,000 euros in building a solid construction house (massive house) with 190 m² (2,045 sq ft) of living space or not. The following questions are on my mind:
1.) I was told that achieving KfW 40 energy efficiency standard is not possible with a solid construction house. Why exactly is that?
2.) Is a solid construction house really more expensive? I have read everywhere that prefab houses are more costly.
3.) I find it hard to create a checklist comparing the advantages and disadvantages of the two building methods. In my mind, I only think: if there is a fire, I won’t have a house afterward. But how stable is wood compared to stone?
Could someone please help me with this?
Good luck
Yasemin
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nordanney3 Jan 2021 12:47allstar83 schrieb:
I think building a prefab house is less stressful since a lot is clearly defined upfront.... and that also makes it less flexible for changes during construction. I know myself—I tend to want to change things repeatedly, especially with electrical or plumbing work, or come up with new ideas 🙄W
WilderSueden3 Jan 2021 12:55allstar83 schrieb:
Right now, I have to shovel snow and water out of the shell of the house every day... It does make you a bit envious of prefabricated houses. However, we didn’t want that (even now).If you look at the scope of work for a prefabricated house provider, it’s also the homeowner’s responsibility to clear the foundation slab of snow at the required times. Especially the major prefab builders do not take that risk on themselves. It might just be fewer days when this is critical, but that’s about it.D
Daniel-Sp3 Jan 2021 13:43nordanney schrieb:
... and that also makes it less flexible to accommodate changes during construction. I know myself, always wanting to make changes in the electrical or plumbing systems or having new ideas 🙄We completed the entire electrical plan with the electrician on site only after the house was erected. We only had a rough preliminary plan for the plumbing. There are limitations anyway because of the wastewater pipes. These, of course, had to be installed before the house was set on the foundation slab. All other pipes and cables were installed on site. Only the power cables for the motorized blinds were installed at the factory.
Yasemin.G schrieb:
THANK YOU, that’s it. Somehow I see similar pictures everywhere.This can simply mean, "We actually know a lot about building houses ourselves, but we’ve delegated this internet stuff to some real fools." However, it can also mean that this provider is just an agency that connects prospective homebuyers with house suppliers of all construction types. Supporting the latter is the fact that they offer an unusual "variety" of construction methods and, apart from general superficial marketing talk (similar to "info" pages that turn out to be Amazon online shops or affiliate promoters), nothing tangible is said about the standard of equipment. Also, the postHausbautraum20 schrieb:
I only know Hoffmann like Allkauf Haus and Massa Haus from some low prices on real estate platforms. I don’t know about Hoffmann, but for Allkauf Haus, the corresponding plot of land was never available.unfortunately points in this direction as well – even in the "references" section, mostly computer-generated "houses" are shown – again mostly the type found dozens of times through reverse image searches. Regarding what @Hausbautraum20 described, you can find some of my explanations about the mode of operation here in the forum by searching for the term "11ant Leerverkauf."Daniel-Sp schrieb:
I think there aren’t major differences between timber frame construction and solid construction. But I’m sure @11ant can say more about this.Yes, he can. I have been involved in building since about 1978 and in prefab houses (including the so-called "massive" ones) since 1982. So I also know that many supposedly big differences are more of a "religious" nature, and that there are also "Schalke" or "Bayern" style fans when it comes to building materials, who just joke about the "other side." And of course, I know the fairy tale of the three little pigs, where the smart pig builds the stone house. I also know that after an electrical fire, the smart pig has to demolish a slag heap of stone contaminated with firefighting water. But I also know of happy, satisfied homeowners who have never cared to look “under the surface” of the wall structure of their house. They all share one thing: a builder who has strong routine with their preferred material and delivers quality homes. The best of them are rarely found online but rather through these satisfied customers.allstar83 schrieb:
Aerated concrete is not really a stone but a building material.Unless you are building a cathedral, you usually won’t use much natural stone, and bricks don’t grow next to strawberries either.But precisely because I’ve known the topic so long, I didn’t give a long lecture at the beginning and instead recommended not to get hung up on the building material issue. The best approach is to walk around new development areas in the building location and its surroundings, look at the signs, and chat (preferably Saturday midday) with the homeowners who have just moved in. They will then direct you to Huberbau, Meierbau, or Müllerbau —the builder who put up their beautiful house.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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Yasemin.G7 Jan 2021 21:51Thank you very much for all the information 🙂
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