ᐅ Prefabricated House Expert – A Worthwhile Investment or a Waste of Money?

I don’t want to disrupt the thread, but “soft” referred to the social factors (acquaintances, environment for us parents and the children).

There was no local model, the plot was bought directly from the municipality – fully serviced, with almost an 18-fold difference compared to the Freising market prices mentioned by Hitokiri.

11ant schrieb:

That would actually pervert the purpose of such a residential area development under the local resident model: this is based on average earners who do not experience seventy percent wage increases between two collective bargaining rounds in any industry.

Hallelujah!! That’s exactly what I’ve been trying to convey. So the point is clear.

11ant schrieb:

So where does your firm belief come from that the guideline value means that your specific land prices have also risen that much?

From this... oh wait... if I or my evil alter ego who supposedly only wanted to advertise but actually just posted a link for information sharing and discussion here, post something, I might get banned. So... how do I post a link without actually posting a link, but still enable people to access the information—in this case a PDF—on their own? Since it only contains the presentation from a municipal assembly and no advertising is involved, it should probably be okay.

Would someone get banned for saying they think such regulations are complete nonsense?

For those who are genuinely interested: go to the website of the municipality of Eching (district Freising) and then to the section (second in the list)
Announcement - Dates of the Citizens’ Assemblies 2019
There you can download the PDF. It gets interesting on page 14, where the area is described; page 15 explains the wealth and income limits (which we would clearly meet); page 16 shows the prices and how they are determined—via the guideline value with a 30% discount. That results in a price of €609/sq m (about $609/sq m) for Dietersheim (where only single-family home plots are available). Then on pages 17 and 18 it shows that the most recent guideline value is at €1,650 (with the discount making it €1,155).

kaho674 schrieb:

In our area, prices have crept up from €55 to €115 per sq m over the last four years. I paid €16.40 per sq m in 2013.

Okay… THAT’s really a giveaway! And where is that plot? Timbuktu? It’s outrageous that there are such extreme price differences within one country. Slightly higher salaries do not explain such jumps. But well, that can be debated elsewhere.

We’re just going to wait and see what the mayor and the council decide. Planning anything else right now doesn’t make sense, as my wife and I would also orient our jobs around where we decide to build our house.

Hitokiri-1978 schrieb:

... showing that the latest BRW is now at the mentioned €1650 (discounted €1155).

It’s really crazy, there’s no other way to put it. But apparently, there are people who can afford to pay that.
The location didn’t ring any bells for me, so I looked it up—and the area sounds quite exclusive. Munich is, after all, the most expensive place in Germany.
How far would you have to go to find significantly more affordable prices (<€500/m² [<47 USD/ft²])?

ypg schrieb:

People get criticized as soon as they express opinions and then stubbornly stick to them, change their username without comment, and occasionally complain that their dream of making their children happy has completely failed because the whole plan is no longer affordable.

Well, at least that’s honest. Whether something is really without argument is, like many things here, subjective and open to debate. I don’t want to dwell on that forever. Just this much: I started reading other threads here like "I’m new and want to build our single-family home." Of course, this is only my personal impression, but I do think the original posters get treated quite harshly and abruptly. They’re called poorly informed (which may be factually correct, but could be said more politely), or accused of trolling simply because they shared their wishes and budget, and so on.

I believe there are many knowledgeable people here, no question. But often there is little patience for beginners who ask questions or express opinions that are obvious to the experts. A bit more understanding would be helpful. After all, an opinion is not automatically right or wrong. Please reflect on your (anyone who feels addressed) sometimes very accusatory and harsh tone. It doesn’t help anyone.

As frustrating as it is, the document states that the standard land value at the time of allocation is decisive. There have been significant changes across Germany in recent years, which explains the difference compared to 2016. The standard land value is just a figure calculated from traded plots/properties. And if prices like these can be achieved in this area (due to Munich’s influence), that’s just your bad luck. How this is supposed to align with the income limits still isn’t clear to me, though. Anyway, good luck! Maybe it will still work out.

Altai schrieb:

How far would you have to move to make it significantly more affordable (under €500/m² (about $540/yd²))?

I have now found a 570m² (6,135 ft²) plot on Immoscout24 in Paunzhausen. That would mean about a 30-minute longer commute compared to Dietersheim (where we would prefer to move). I think that’s still acceptable, but I’m not sure if there is decent infrastructure there with daycare centers, schools, supermarkets, etc. Otherwise, you can find plots under €500/m² (about $540/yd²) further out beyond Pfaffenhofen, Au in der Hallertau, and so on.

For now, we’re waiting for a clear decision on what the price per square meter will be like during the allocation process.