ᐅ Prefabricated House Expert – A Worthwhile Investment or a Waste of Money?
Created on: 25 Sep 2019 11:29
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Hitokiri-666
Hello everyone,
Is it worth hiring a prefab house expert?
We are still at the very beginning of our home building plans. If we’re lucky and secure a plot in our town, we want to build a single-family house (about 140–160 square meters (1506–1722 square feet) of living space, with a basement) on it if possible.
We have already decided that we want to build a prefab house.
Last weekend, we had two consultation appointments at the Poing building center. A certain Tobias Beuler, who presents himself as an expert on prefab houses and writes many different contributions on the subject, offers his services for contract negotiation, construction supervision, supplier selection, etc. (for a fee, of course).
Has anyone had experience with this gentleman, positive or negative? Does it make sense for a layperson to have such an expert at their side, or is it unnecessary wasted money, considering that over time you can acquire the expert knowledge yourself?
Thanks in advance!
Is it worth hiring a prefab house expert?
We are still at the very beginning of our home building plans. If we’re lucky and secure a plot in our town, we want to build a single-family house (about 140–160 square meters (1506–1722 square feet) of living space, with a basement) on it if possible.
We have already decided that we want to build a prefab house.
Last weekend, we had two consultation appointments at the Poing building center. A certain Tobias Beuler, who presents himself as an expert on prefab houses and writes many different contributions on the subject, offers his services for contract negotiation, construction supervision, supplier selection, etc. (for a fee, of course).
Has anyone had experience with this gentleman, positive or negative? Does it make sense for a layperson to have such an expert at their side, or is it unnecessary wasted money, considering that over time you can acquire the expert knowledge yourself?
Thanks in advance!
Well, there are also prefab house manufacturers that really build everything finished in the factory. For example, in our case, the screed was produced in the factory as shaped components including underfloor heating and was placed directly onto the raw floor on site.
The pipes for the underfloor heating were then connected on site.
The pipes for the mechanical ventilation system were already installed, etc.
The concealed cistern was fully installed in the wall.
Windows and roller shutters were installed.
Plaster was applied and only checked and painted at the corners.
In the future, the next step will be the completion of the wet area, which will be manufactured as a finished module and installed into the house. I don’t know how far they have advanced in the single-family house sector; I have only seen the promotional video.
And that this technology was also used to outfit a hotel.
So, in our case, the interior finishing took only 6 weeks from the installation date to moving in. And no, our house is not small; we have about 250m2 (2,690 sq ft) including usable space.
Nevertheless, it took about 14 months from signing the contract to moving in. The floor plan was already finalized before signing the contract. The delay was only due to changes in the building permit / planning permission, for which we needed approval from the local council.
What still fascinates me is that production in the factory only started 7 days before the installation date.
The pipes for the underfloor heating were then connected on site.
The pipes for the mechanical ventilation system were already installed, etc.
The concealed cistern was fully installed in the wall.
Windows and roller shutters were installed.
Plaster was applied and only checked and painted at the corners.
In the future, the next step will be the completion of the wet area, which will be manufactured as a finished module and installed into the house. I don’t know how far they have advanced in the single-family house sector; I have only seen the promotional video.
And that this technology was also used to outfit a hotel.
So, in our case, the interior finishing took only 6 weeks from the installation date to moving in. And no, our house is not small; we have about 250m2 (2,690 sq ft) including usable space.
Nevertheless, it took about 14 months from signing the contract to moving in. The floor plan was already finalized before signing the contract. The delay was only due to changes in the building permit / planning permission, for which we needed approval from the local council.
What still fascinates me is that production in the factory only started 7 days before the installation date.
Hitokiri-1978 schrieb:
What you describe is exactly the disadvantage I see with solid construction. Either you hire a site manager/construction supervisor or someone who monitors the work on our behalf, This distinction doesn’t really exist: the high degree of prefabrication experienced by my predecessor is not the norm. A “prefabricated house” is usually a “prefabricated shell,” which is completed by a often significant number of local tradespeople and therefore requires almost the same demands on a site manager.
Ceterum censeo, the original poster or their alter ego writing about them in the third person (?) should not give up too easily.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Hitokiri-1978 schrieb:
and our house project was completely destroyed and ruined because of that damn BRW. For months we had prepared ourselves, held discussions, made plans (yes, we were probably naive here, we just wanted to build a good future for ourselves and our children) but apparently it was not meant to be. Time for a little therapy, my friend... this constant pessimism isn’t healthy.
Split personalities aren’t either.
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hampshire27 Sep 2019 23:09It’s a pity that the project ended before it even started.
The question of the value of having a paid expert by your side is still interesting. It can only be answered if you know the client’s goal. That wasn’t made clear either. Also a shame.
The difference between a car and a house is that a car is an industrial mass product (or at least a series product in that price range), whereas a house is always a handcrafted custom build.
Your “implication” about the need to be physically present on site is one possible interpretation, but not a logically necessary one.
It’s much more about managing your project. Leadership and delegation are unthinkable without presence and genuine interest.
“Cemetery gardener management” (managing 1,000 people without contact with any of them) will very likely lead to poor results. This also applies to construction.
The question of the value of having a paid expert by your side is still interesting. It can only be answered if you know the client’s goal. That wasn’t made clear either. Also a shame.
Hitokiri-1978 schrieb:
When I configure, order, and pay for a car today, I expect to find that exact car with the specified features on the delivery day. And with a house, it’s even more extreme. This will probably be the most expensive purchase of one’s life; people go into debt for decades and still don’t receive the work they contractually agreed upon. I don’t want to accuse anyone, but if it is necessary to be constantly present at the construction site, the implication is that if you are not there, the workers take advantage of you, are lazy, and don’t do their work even though they are paid for it. Yes, I know… a house is not a car.
The difference between a car and a house is that a car is an industrial mass product (or at least a series product in that price range), whereas a house is always a handcrafted custom build.
Your “implication” about the need to be physically present on site is one possible interpretation, but not a logically necessary one.
It’s much more about managing your project. Leadership and delegation are unthinkable without presence and genuine interest.
“Cemetery gardener management” (managing 1,000 people without contact with any of them) will very likely lead to poor results. This also applies to construction.
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Hitokiri-197830 Sep 2019 15:16ypg schrieb:
this constant pessimism is unhealthy.This is not pessimism, but simply the fact that the price per square meter has practically increased by 73% overnight. For the plot we want, that amounts to 195,000 euros. It's like sinking a brand-new Ferrari into the Isar river.After that, I don’t have any more square meters or a better location, just that Ferrari less.
We have a faint hope that in a meeting the advance payment rates might be increased (meaning the land would become cheaper). Currently, these prices don’t make any sense given the income limits, and no one could afford this.
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