ᐅ Plastic windows in 100x250 cm size with RC2 security rating not possible?
Created on: 22 Sep 2022 19:58
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JaiBee07
Hello,
I received feedback from my window manufacturer stating that my requested single-leaf, floor-to-ceiling PVC frame windows measuring 100cm (40 inches) wide and 250cm (98 inches) high with RC2 glazing are not feasible. The window sash would be too heavy due to the laminated glass pane, and the hardware would not support it.
Does anyone have a similar window with comparable dimensions? Aluminum windows are not an option because of the price increase (they would probably work).
Are there special fittings for something like this? Or other solutions?
Best regards
I received feedback from my window manufacturer stating that my requested single-leaf, floor-to-ceiling PVC frame windows measuring 100cm (40 inches) wide and 250cm (98 inches) high with RC2 glazing are not feasible. The window sash would be too heavy due to the laminated glass pane, and the hardware would not support it.
Does anyone have a similar window with comparable dimensions? Aluminum windows are not an option because of the price increase (they would probably work).
Are there special fittings for something like this? Or other solutions?
Best regards
This is probably dangerous half-knowledge on my part, but I believe that the window panes used as replacements for guardrails are constructed differently. I think there are two panes bonded with a film. That would also explain the significant difference in weight.
As far as I know, for RC2 there is only one film applied to the inside of one of the glass panes.
As far as I know, for RC2 there is only one film applied to the inside of one of the glass panes.
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SaniererNRW12323 Sep 2022 08:47JaiBee07 schrieb:
I was not informed that the dimensions are generally the issue, but rather that the RC2 requirement makes the glass so heavy that it becomes a problem. Since standard RC2 glass is just a single pane with a laminated film, does that really increase the weight of the triple-pane glass that much? The additional weight should be about 30% because one more glass pane is installed.
JaiBee07 schrieb:
As far as I know, RC2 only has a film applied to the inside of one glass pane. It is more than one film. See the picture.
JaiBee07 schrieb:
Considering that standard RC2 glass is just a single pane with laminated film, does that really affect the weight of the triple glazing that much?
The verbally mentioned price increase for aluminum was more around +70%-80%, but that was given off the cuff.
[...] Is installing door hinges a common practice or more of a DIY fix? The misunderstanding about the glass panes was already clarified by @SaniererNRW123. The mentioned aluminum price increase is significantly exaggerated (and/or suggests a too cheap or low-quality comparison offer). PVC remains PVC, no matter how much it is upgraded.
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xMisterDx29 Sep 2022 23:34I have 112.5×239cm (44×94 inches) floor-to-ceiling windows made of plastic in RC2 class. They have not come out of the frame yet.
Unfortunately, the issue is still not resolved. It seems the window manufacturer is not very willing to provide possible alternatives.
I had asked to be informed about which glass panes would be suitable, possibly with reduced burglary resistance.
For the floor-to-ceiling patio door, I could accept a design with just the turn function and without the tilt function.
For the floor-to-ceiling windows facing the street (without a flat threshold), I would also be willing to completely forgo laminated safety glass if necessary.
I have passed on the note regarding the door fittings and asked if they could do something about this.
I would like to know the exact additional cost for the aluminum patio door if it could meet RC2 rating in the given dimensions.
So far, no feedback has been received despite multiple requests from BU. The frames should be Salamander, as far as I am informed, a good mid-range option.
@11ant: Could you give me a tip on which frame manufacturer might be the best choice here for increased stability? Also, which fittings have a "good reputation" in this regard?
Could the external roller shutters be designed differently to reduce the load on the window?
I had asked to be informed about which glass panes would be suitable, possibly with reduced burglary resistance.
For the floor-to-ceiling patio door, I could accept a design with just the turn function and without the tilt function.
For the floor-to-ceiling windows facing the street (without a flat threshold), I would also be willing to completely forgo laminated safety glass if necessary.
I have passed on the note regarding the door fittings and asked if they could do something about this.
I would like to know the exact additional cost for the aluminum patio door if it could meet RC2 rating in the given dimensions.
So far, no feedback has been received despite multiple requests from BU. The frames should be Salamander, as far as I am informed, a good mid-range option.
@11ant: Could you give me a tip on which frame manufacturer might be the best choice here for increased stability? Also, which fittings have a "good reputation" in this regard?
Could the external roller shutters be designed differently to reduce the load on the window?
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