ᐅ New Construction Security Options for Windows and Front Doors
Created on: 2 Feb 2022 14:07
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Pacc666
Hello,
I have a question regarding our new build.
For the windows, we were offered a security fitting in two levels:
Level 1: €45 per sash – mushroom cams all around, 4-corner steel tube reinforcement, and drill protection.
Level 2: €110 per sash – everything upgraded for better security.
I think Level 1 would be enough; on the ground floor, we have 7 sashes. Or do you think standard windows provide sufficient protection? Windows: (Veka Softline 82)
Front door:
Standard 5-point locking.
Additional cost €200 for 3-point automatic locking (what are the benefits? Is this necessary?)
Is an anti-lift device needed for the front door? It’s a metal plate costing about €100 that prevents the door from being pried open.
Do burglars even break in through the front door of a newly built semi-detached house, or do they usually go through the windows?
Our front door faces the street in a large new development.
Is a security bar required for the front door?
I have a question regarding our new build.
For the windows, we were offered a security fitting in two levels:
Level 1: €45 per sash – mushroom cams all around, 4-corner steel tube reinforcement, and drill protection.
Level 2: €110 per sash – everything upgraded for better security.
I think Level 1 would be enough; on the ground floor, we have 7 sashes. Or do you think standard windows provide sufficient protection? Windows: (Veka Softline 82)
Front door:
Standard 5-point locking.
Additional cost €200 for 3-point automatic locking (what are the benefits? Is this necessary?)
Is an anti-lift device needed for the front door? It’s a metal plate costing about €100 that prevents the door from being pried open.
Do burglars even break in through the front door of a newly built semi-detached house, or do they usually go through the windows?
Our front door faces the street in a large new development.
Is a security bar required for the front door?
Tolentino schrieb:
What do people usually keep in their homes if the total value reaches six figures? Genuine artwork by well-known artists?I would guess cash, gold, and jewelry?
Yes, probably, and I don’t want to engage in victim blaming, but it’s unlikely that anyone regularly keeps more than 1,000 EUR cash at home. In my opinion, gold should be stored in a bank safe deposit box or a built-in safe.
There’s still jewelry, of course. You’d need quite a lot of it to reach a six-figure value. In that case, I would also have a safe for it.
I’ve thought about it again. So, the most valuable thing we have that can be easily taken is probably our poodle. And at the same time, it serves as our alarm system.
There’s still jewelry, of course. You’d need quite a lot of it to reach a six-figure value. In that case, I would also have a safe for it.
I’ve thought about it again. So, the most valuable thing we have that can be easily taken is probably our poodle. And at the same time, it serves as our alarm system.
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pagoni20207 Feb 2022 10:25In Germany, property ownership is highly valued, which is reflected in the legal system; offenses against property are usually punished more severely than those against people. A single woman is probably more worried about a vandal breaking into her ground floor apartment than about someone stealing her earrings or other valuables. Nowadays, there are already many valuable items around homes—thieves steal car side mirrors, bicycles, plants, garden fences, building materials and tools, lawn mowers—each taking whatever they can use or sell.
There are random victims as well as targeted ones, and there is no cure-all solution. As I mentioned, I often encounter generic advice, unfortunately also from police counseling. However, it certainly makes sense to take basic precautions, such as those outlined for RC2 (resistance class 2). But similar to KfW (state development bank) calculations, every measure should be carefully considered to determine whether it actually makes sense for one’s specific situation.
If I just sit in front of a screen searching for criminals all day, it affects me and my children. The fear of such attacks has grown disproportionately over the last few decades, which does not necessarily correspond to reality.
In times of single glazing, it was easy and common to break in; double glazing made it more difficult; with triple or even quadruple glazing, it becomes really tough and requires brute force. However, there are still break-ins where someone throws a manhole cover through the window, reverses a truck through the patio door, or ambushes the victim when entering the house, getting into the car, or during an evening walk with a Dalmatian.
All of this happens, but I tend to live by the motto: “What happens often is often, and what happens rarely is rare.”
There are random victims as well as targeted ones, and there is no cure-all solution. As I mentioned, I often encounter generic advice, unfortunately also from police counseling. However, it certainly makes sense to take basic precautions, such as those outlined for RC2 (resistance class 2). But similar to KfW (state development bank) calculations, every measure should be carefully considered to determine whether it actually makes sense for one’s specific situation.
If I just sit in front of a screen searching for criminals all day, it affects me and my children. The fear of such attacks has grown disproportionately over the last few decades, which does not necessarily correspond to reality.
BlackLotus schrieb:
Regarding the statements "They can’t get in through the glass anyway": That might have been true 10–15 years ago, but today, with many people having much more secure window frames, offender behavior has adapted accordingly. Thanks to quadruple glazing and energy-efficient houses with comfort ventilation—cool in summer despite closed windows—neighbors don’t even notice when someone breaks the glass in your home.
In times of single glazing, it was easy and common to break in; double glazing made it more difficult; with triple or even quadruple glazing, it becomes really tough and requires brute force. However, there are still break-ins where someone throws a manhole cover through the window, reverses a truck through the patio door, or ambushes the victim when entering the house, getting into the car, or during an evening walk with a Dalmatian.
All of this happens, but I tend to live by the motto: “What happens often is often, and what happens rarely is rare.”
pagoni2020 schrieb:
Attacks on property are usually punished more severely than those against people.Oh, I consider that a bold statement: An (armed) robbery is punished much more harshly than a burglary.I sincerely hope that society and criminals still have enough "decency" to break in only when no one is home, rather than just ringing the doorbell and overwhelming the unsuspecting occupants directly.
Tassimat schrieb:
How loud is it actually when trying to break a standard triple-glazed window? Would the neighbors even react? pagoni2020 schrieb:
It’s very loud and not so easy with triple glazing. A typical burglar would probably be too lazy and go for a door or, even better, the next house... 🤨 Good question, Tassimat.
A recent case from a circle of friends: On the afternoon of Christmas Day (probably still daylight), in the middle of a “busy” residential area, a break-in occurred in a 3-year-old house. They didn’t seem to be professionals, as the attempt was made on a clearly visible terrace. Several attempts were made on the large window, then the burglar moved to the patio door. There are 18 (!) marks from a crowbar where they tried to pry or force the door open, and in the end the glass panes (triple-glazed) had to be broken.
This method is quite unusual and apparently took some time, so it must have been relatively loud. Still, NO ONE in the neighborhood heard or saw anything 🙁
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