ᐅ Plastic windows in 100x250 cm size with RC2 security rating not possible?

Created on: 22 Sep 2022 19:58
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JaiBee07
Hello,

I received feedback from my window manufacturer stating that my requested single-leaf, floor-to-ceiling PVC frame windows measuring 100cm (40 inches) wide and 250cm (98 inches) high with RC2 glazing are not feasible. The window sash would be too heavy due to the laminated glass pane, and the hardware would not support it.

Does anyone have a similar window with comparable dimensions? Aluminum windows are not an option because of the price increase (they would probably work).

Are there special fittings for something like this? Or other solutions?

Best regards
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Ysop***
13 Oct 2022 06:54
I am not very familiar with the topic, but does the window manufacturer even offer alternative options? And have you already decided on this window manufacturer?
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JaiBee07
13 Oct 2022 08:02
The building owner (BU) has apparently been working regularly with the window manufacturer for over 10 years. The expectation is that they provide reasonable quality at a fair price, and according to the BU, the experiences so far have almost always been very positive. That was the basis I wanted to build on. However, during busier periods, the window manufacturer clearly shows little interest in windows that deviate from the standard and require some coordination. Unfortunately.
11ant13 Oct 2022 11:28
JaiBee07 schrieb:

I wanted to know the exact additional cost for an aluminum patio door if it meets RC2 standards in these dimensions [...]
@11ant: Could you give me a tip on which frame manufacturer might be the most suitable here regarding increased stability? Also about fittings that have a "good reputation" in this context.
Is it possible to install the external roller shutters differently to reduce the load on the window?
You should not assemble the components yourself. Choose a supplier whose product is convincing as a whole. Don’t hesitate to source individual elements from different suppliers. Most apartment buildings have PVC windows, and possibly an aluminum front door from a different source. I don’t understand what the roller shutters have to do with the question.
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JaiBee07
14 Oct 2022 00:13
No, I wouldn’t feel confident assembling it myself. But if, for example, you had said that company XYZ is often used, I would have passed that information on to him.

For a standalone front door, I can well imagine using a different supplier.
Do you think that would also work for a patio door located 1.5m (5 feet) next to the large sliding door on the same terrace? I’m honestly concerned it might look awkward.

Regarding the roller shutters: Since the maximum height of a window including the roller shutter is often specified, I get the impression that the roller shutter plays some role in the structural load—possibly due to the additional weight. I think I once saw an option for an aluminum reinforcement bar at the top in some online configurator. That’s why I’m wondering if, during window manufacturing, there might be a way to reinforce the window or frame to reduce issues caused by the extra weight of the roller shutter box.
11ant14 Oct 2022 00:47
JaiBee07 schrieb:

But if, for example, you had said that company XYZ is often used there, I would have passed that on to him as information.
Your supplier (not me) is responsible for the finished product. If I were to advise him to replace the fittings, I would have to admit that I didn’t understand my own Steinemantra ;-(
JaiBee07 schrieb:

Do you think this would also work for a patio door located 1.5m (5 feet) next to the large sliding door of the same patio? I’m really worried that it might look bad.
I am more concerned that the fact we don’t know the house might become a problem when answering your questions. Such hypothetical crystal-ball guessing is not entirely without risk. By the way, I still don’t understand your idea about the roller shutter box.
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JaiBee07
14 Oct 2022 01:51
11ant schrieb:

Your supplier (not me) is responsible for the finished product. If I were to advise him to replace the fittings, I would have clearly misunderstood my own Steinemantra ;-(

I’m more concerned that it might be problematic that we don’t know the house in relation to your questions. Such hypothetical guesswork is not entirely without risk. By the way, I still don’t follow your thoughts about the roller shutter box.


I don’t quite understand where you would suddenly take responsibility if you named a company based on your experience that stood out positively to you in this context, but okay.

Also, regarding the second point about whether it is common for homeowners to use windows or patio doors from different manufacturers when they are located close to each other visually, or whether this is usually avoided for aesthetic reasons, I was hoping for more feedback based on your experience.