Hello dear community,
we are planning to buy a house, preferably an energy-efficient House 55. To be clear, we are still searching and currently have nothing fixed.
However, I am already thinking a lot about topics such as the home network, home bus system, and TV wiring. I have searched a lot online, but many questions remain. I now have some questions and hope you can help me with your experience:
Home Network
Thank you very much for your help.
we are planning to buy a house, preferably an energy-efficient House 55. To be clear, we are still searching and currently have nothing fixed.
However, I am already thinking a lot about topics such as the home network, home bus system, and TV wiring. I have searched a lot online, but many questions remain. I now have some questions and hope you can help me with your experience:
Home Network
- Which cables should I install, considering future-proofing? Cat 6 or Cat 7?
- How does it work with the cables? They are bought, for example, on a 100 or 200 meter (328 or 656 feet) roll. Do connectors need to be attached afterward?
- How are the cables connected to flush-mounted sockets?
- The central point should be the basement. Everything should come together here. Do you use a patch panel (which I have never heard of before) or a router with switches? Internet will be provided by a cable provider. Would the installation then be as follows? Wall socket in the basement --> cable provider’s modem --> router --> patch panel --> flush-mounted sockets?
- How are the network cables actually routed? One cable from the patch panel to each flush-mounted socket? The sockets should each have 2 ports. Or do you have to run 2 cables per socket? IMPORTANT: At least gigabit is required everywhere, preferably 10 Gb! If you assume one cable per port, that will result in a lot of cables.
- Our house should also be future-proof. I keep reading about KNX/EIB bus systems for homes. Can you recommend them? I am thinking, for example, of programming lights and monitoring and controlling the heating and ventilation system.
- What do you think of the company GIRA (KNX system, sockets, etc.)?
- For security reasons, I do not want the home bus system to be connected to the Internet. I do not need to control the heating via the Internet, etc. Is something like this possible (a private home network)?
- TV wiring is actually related to my questions about network installation. What kind of cables are used here?
- Is one cable installed per socket?
- How is this implemented if you have a satellite dish with one LNB? Can the signal be distributed throughout the house? Can everyone watch what they want? Or is additional equipment needed?
Thank you very much for your help.
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Florian805 Sep 2017 10:48Deliverer schrieb:
That’s interesting. Where is this done?Hello, actually in almost every modern network installation. Check out amp jacks.F
Florian805 Sep 2017 10:50Alex85 schrieb:
Where the modularity of the jacks is needed. Ordinary people just connect directly to an outlet. True, but honestly, it’s quite complicated. Using a crimping tool is easy and done. Stapling the outlet with LSA connectors plus pliers at the bottom of the wall is really stressful.
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Deliverer5 Sep 2017 10:54Interesting. Can this be done with standard crimping pliers, or do you need a special tool for that?
And isn’t it even more fiddly to get all the cables neatly arranged this way than terminating them directly on the outlet?
And isn’t it even more fiddly to get all the cables neatly arranged this way than terminating them directly on the outlet?
The main question is what is more cost-effective, especially when it only concerns the convenience of laying cables once. If the electrician wants to use jacks, they should be priced the same or lower than the conventional method of cable laying, otherwise the customer does not benefit from it.
Florian80 schrieb:
The antenna system or satellite (SAT) cable must be run from each outlet to the SAT splitter. You need two connections for watching TV and recording simultaneously, so two cables either with SAT wall sockets in the rooms or simply with F connectors. From the dish to the splitter, four cables connect to the LNB. For up to four cables, a quattro LNB can be used directly to the outlets.Hi, please don’t take this as a criticism, but isn’t a classic SAT coax wiring a bit outdated nowadays?
We always talk about networking, smart homes, and Cat7 network cabling, and then we additionally run multiple coax cables to the different rooms just to watch and record TV at the same time?
Wouldn’t it be more sensible to feed the SAT signal into the IP network and stream the TV signal, delegating recordings to a central NAS in the basement or technical room, so you can watch the recorded content on any client (TV, Raspberry Pi, mobile device)?
Has anyone got stable solutions for this?
I’m seriously wondering whether I really need all those coax cables and unnecessary sockets or if I should just run cables from the dish/LNBs to the basement and then convert and stream the signal over TCP/IP. Are there any experiences or device recommendations?
My Kathrein EXIP-414 isn’t impressing me so far in combination with TVHeadend and OpenELEC clients...
Best regards,
Stephan
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Florian805 Sep 2017 21:10ruppsn schrieb:
Hi, please don’t take this as an attack, but isn’t classic satellite coaxial wiring a bit old-fashioned nowadays?
We always talk about networking, smart home systems, and CAT7 Ethernet cabling, and then in addition, we pull multiple coax cables into different rooms just to watch and record TV?!
Wouldn’t it be more practical to feed the satellite signal into the IP network and stream the TV signal, delegate recordings to a central NAS in the basement or technical room, and then watch the recorded content on any client device (TV, Raspberry Pi, mobile device)?
Does anyone have stable solutions for this?
I’m seriously considering whether I really need all those coax cables and unnecessary outlets, or just run a cable from the dish/LNBs to the basement and then convert and stream the signal over TCP/IP. Are there any experiences or device recommendations for this?
My Kathrein EXIP-414 isn’t impressing me much in combination with TVHeadend and OpenELEC clients...
Regards,
Stephan Hello, even for large installations, people don’t give that up. I would separate them strictly, mainly because of data transfer rates and so on. They are two completely different systems. Nobody really cares about a few extra cables anyway.
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