ᐅ Expert Consultant: In Which Construction Phases Is Their Involvement Crucial?

BigFoot schrieb:

Hello 11ant,

No, that is the payment plan including the plot, from a genuine developer... So unfortunately, no right to the house here :-/

Best regards,
BigFoot

What kind of contract is that? I would say the developer is acting differently here. Of course, I don't actually know.
But very unusual...

ypg schrieb:

What kind of contract is that? I would say that the builder is acting differently here. Of course, I don’t know for sure.
But it’s very unusual...

We have exactly the same model. In our case, the builder remains the owner until the handover of the house, and at that point, ownership is transferred to us accordingly.

danixf schrieb:

In our case, the building land (BT) remains with the owner until the house is handed over, and upon handover, it is transferred to us accordingly.

And that is exactly what this payment plan means: the buyer makes installment payments for services almost in parallel or corresponding to the progress of the work, which at that time still belong to the seller. So, basically, a kind of tit-for-tat arrangement. Here, either the legal model or the financial approach fits. Making payments to a building land owner (BT) at times when it would logically be to a general contractor (GC) at least raises some questionable points in my mind.

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@danixf Thanks for your assessment. Did you have an expert with you? Regarding the site visit: this is a large construction site with 3 building phases, about 200 apartments, and 50 semi-detached houses/townhouses. Believe me, no one wants to just walk around the site and look at their unit without prior appointment.

@11ant I don’t fully understand your assessment yet. Neighbors had the contract reviewed; it’s not perfect (especially the building specification) but legally solid. The notary confirmed this, as it’s their standard building contract without changes. According to them, it has been used tens of thousands of times in Munich alone in recent years.

@all Are there any other opinions about whether to involve an expert or not, and if yes, when?

BigFoot schrieb:

Hello 11ant,

No, this is the payment schedule including the plot, a genuine builder... So unfortunately, there is no house ownership right :-/

Best regards,
BigFoot

So you pay your installments, but the ownership remains with the builder until handover?
Where is the security for the money you have paid?
If the builder is still the full owner, then you depend entirely on their goodwill. You don’t actually have any rights there.
Or am I seeing this wrong?

I’d say the tradespeople probably don’t care who else is on the construction site.

BigFoot schrieb:

@all Are there any other opinions regarding whether to hire a building expert or not, and if yes, at what stages?

We are currently looking for a building expert for our construction as well. I wouldn’t want to build without one. Since I’m not a professional, I would prefer to have the work on/in the house evaluated and approved by an expert. Building a house involves a lot of money and it’s the future roof over my head, so in my opinion, you shouldn’t save money in the wrong place.

One of the quotes we received included a list of inspections recommended by one of the building savings contracts. According to the contract, completing these inspections—including site visits and writing reports—is estimated to require about 20–25 hours of work.

• Before pouring the concrete for the foundation slab, when groundwork pipes are installed
• Before pouring the concrete for the foundation slab, when reinforcement and possibly joint sheets of the slab are installed
• After completion of the basement level, before the excavation pit is backfilled
• After completion of the shell construction including the roof structure
• After installing underfloor heating/insulation, before the screed is laid
• Inspection of installation work (water, wastewater, heating, and electrical) inside the house
• Inspection of window installation, before external and internal plaster is applied
• During and after facade work (insulation, plaster) as well as roofing work
• After application of interior plaster and screed
• Final inspection including painting work, building components, etc.

You certainly don’t have to follow this list exactly as suggested, and some appointments can probably be combined. But as a layperson, I think this list is actually a useful guideline.