Hello dear forum members,
I am currently working on our electrical planning, and somehow my plans are getting more and more colorful.
I know that you need a switch to get light and that power comes from the sockets, but two areas are really confusing me:
1) The outdoor area: we want to illuminate the front and back of the house each with one spotlight. Of course, outlets will be planned that can be switched from inside (near the front door).
A carport is planned (with lighting and motion detectors later?), and the garage, which is 2 meters (6.5 feet) away from the house, should also receive power for future use (sockets, lighting, possibly electric roller shutters). Furthermore, the garden should be illuminated later on.
Question: Is it enough to communicate these needs to the electrician? Will they install one feed line to the carport, another to the garage, and a third cable towards the garden? Can multiple garden lights then be connected from one cable?
How does it work if the lighting is upgraded only later (after moving in)?
2) The staircase area to the upper floor: the stairs lead (unlike most) from the open living area to the upper floor. The living area is open to above (no intermediate ceiling). Upstairs, the stairs lead to a small gallery (hallway).
On the other side of the stairs downstairs is a wall with two planned spotlights. I have somehow planned this now: downstairs a light switch for the stair spotlights, upstairs a switch for the gallery. Is that switching too much? Would it be better to also illuminate the gallery together with the stairs? I have already thought about a motion detector at the base of the stairs, but since the living room is there as well, the stair light would always come on when passing by. The living area lighting (three large pendant lights) hangs in the open space. Could this lighting possibly be sufficient for the stairs so that the spotlights can be omitted? However, then the main light in the living area would need to be switchable from upstairs as well?!
Can anyone give me a tip on how to solve this best?
I am currently working on our electrical planning, and somehow my plans are getting more and more colorful.
I know that you need a switch to get light and that power comes from the sockets, but two areas are really confusing me:
1) The outdoor area: we want to illuminate the front and back of the house each with one spotlight. Of course, outlets will be planned that can be switched from inside (near the front door).
A carport is planned (with lighting and motion detectors later?), and the garage, which is 2 meters (6.5 feet) away from the house, should also receive power for future use (sockets, lighting, possibly electric roller shutters). Furthermore, the garden should be illuminated later on.
Question: Is it enough to communicate these needs to the electrician? Will they install one feed line to the carport, another to the garage, and a third cable towards the garden? Can multiple garden lights then be connected from one cable?
How does it work if the lighting is upgraded only later (after moving in)?
2) The staircase area to the upper floor: the stairs lead (unlike most) from the open living area to the upper floor. The living area is open to above (no intermediate ceiling). Upstairs, the stairs lead to a small gallery (hallway).
On the other side of the stairs downstairs is a wall with two planned spotlights. I have somehow planned this now: downstairs a light switch for the stair spotlights, upstairs a switch for the gallery. Is that switching too much? Would it be better to also illuminate the gallery together with the stairs? I have already thought about a motion detector at the base of the stairs, but since the living room is there as well, the stair light would always come on when passing by. The living area lighting (three large pendant lights) hangs in the open space. Could this lighting possibly be sufficient for the stairs so that the spotlights can be omitted? However, then the main light in the living area would need to be switchable from upstairs as well?!
Can anyone give me a tip on how to solve this best?
Elektro1 schrieb:
as long as the switch can be clearly assigned to the staircase.I will make sure to pay attention to that!
Elektro1 schrieb:
also a good option. Thinking a bit further, you could use a relay circuit to either switch on the entire accent lighting (always with priority) or, with the staircase light switch, only the lights at the stairs (i.e., subordinate wiring)Hm, when I google the word relay circuit, I end up at an automotive forum. If it’s what I think it is, then it’s perfect for us. A switch that I operate multiple times but turns on other lights?!… Let’s see what the electrician charges for that, probably a small luxury…
Elektro1 schrieb:
The brightness alone won’t be sufficient. Look into adjustable MR16 and LED GU10 2700K (warm white) spotlights (e.g., Philips). This solution is cheaper than ready-made adjustable LED recessed downlights and doesn’t require a transformer.Oh, we’re talking past each other. My spots are standalone “spotlights” that are called spots. I already ordered the Philips GU10 2700 (I googled and it seems to be quite good).
Elektro1 schrieb:
Why separate Wii and DVD? These devices only work together with the TV anyway?! Think about which devices must definitely work together; these would then be connected to one switchable outlet group. I hope by power strip you don’t mean those cheap multiple outlet strips from hardware stores. Okay for existing buildings, but please not for new builds.Wii and DVD separate since these devices are usually off, and only switched on when needed. No, it’s a quality power strip, not one from IKEA or a hardware store. But you’re right: for new builds, you could probably add a switch, which is another small luxury.
Elektro1 schrieb:
LAN everywhere where a TV, PC/MAC, router, laptop, etc. might be located. Maybe even for the refrigerator. Don’t forget the garden; with an outdoor socket you can easily extend the Wi-Fi.We’ll do the refrigerator via wireless then—no, seriously, I like to do the shopping myself… haha… Also, my wardrobe won’t get a socket!
Many thanks, you’ve given me some very good ideas. I will start drafting now.
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