Hello everyone,
we have a central vacuum system from allaway at home, and overall I’m very satisfied with the system itself, but not so much with the manufacturer when it comes to the suction pipes and nozzles. I’m now looking for an alternative that I can attach to the existing vacuum hose.
Does anyone happen to know something about this? I don’t really want to call allaway and ask.
The suction pipe detached from the handle while vacuuming and simply fell onto the tiled floor, causing some plastic to break off. Also, the suction pipe no longer fits securely on the handle and keeps slipping off. The floor nozzle is already so worn after just six months that even when the floor brushes are extended, the metal part of the nozzle scrapes against the floor. This is very unpleasant to hear and also leaves marks on the floor.
Before I go ahead and buy something random, I wanted to check if anyone here has any knowledge about this. The vacuum hoses are sold simply by the meter, and the ends are usually just slipped onto the handle or screwed onto the inlet valve fitting (suction inlet).
Best regards
we have a central vacuum system from allaway at home, and overall I’m very satisfied with the system itself, but not so much with the manufacturer when it comes to the suction pipes and nozzles. I’m now looking for an alternative that I can attach to the existing vacuum hose.
Does anyone happen to know something about this? I don’t really want to call allaway and ask.
The suction pipe detached from the handle while vacuuming and simply fell onto the tiled floor, causing some plastic to break off. Also, the suction pipe no longer fits securely on the handle and keeps slipping off. The floor nozzle is already so worn after just six months that even when the floor brushes are extended, the metal part of the nozzle scrapes against the floor. This is very unpleasant to hear and also leaves marks on the floor.
Before I go ahead and buy something random, I wanted to check if anyone here has any knowledge about this. The vacuum hoses are sold simply by the meter, and the ends are usually just slipped onto the handle or screwed onto the inlet valve fitting (suction inlet).
Best regards
Illo77 schrieb:
1. No fine dust and odors: The exhaust is blown outside, so there is no fine dust inside the house (my wife has issues with this, which we couldn’t solve with our Vorwerk and Dyson vacuum cleaners). The same applies to odors when, for example, you vacuum up strongly smelling things (like spilled pepper)—in that case, the smell lingers for quite a while. But if you use scent beads, it smells nice =) I can’t really judge, as I don’t have problems with that. Actually, I’m surprised that expensive and good-brand vacuums haven’t solved this. However, I can’t confirm the pepper issue. I just use my handheld vacuum once, then empty it into the trash bin, and I don’t smell anything afterward.
Illo77 schrieb:
2. Handling and long-lasting power: No more annoying vacuum cleaners you have to drag behind you, banging against door frames and corners, possibly tipping over, with cords that are too short and require unplugging and replugging. No pushing the machine back because it’s in the way when you reach the corner. No worries about the battery (assuming a cordless device) running out in a 180 m² (1937 sq ft) household—intensive vacuuming can take a while, especially in the children’s rooms—or about whether the previous user plugged it in to charge. I don’t know how often you vacuum, but I clean one floor every 2–3 days. The handheld vacuums offer about 60 minutes of normal power and 15 minutes at full power. I’m usually done in 15–20 minutes. The first part reminds me of those bad TV commercials from the past where no-name products in dull gray pictures couldn’t do anything properly, then suddenly the all-saving all-purpose cleaner appeared under shining sunlight and could remove everything—effortlessly!
Illo77 schrieb:
3. Bagless dust container: Large 12-liter (3.2 gallon) dust container, no need to empty it constantly like a regular vacuum, no bags to buy—just unlock the container, empty it into the black bin, and done. Cartridge filter can be unscrewed and cleaned outside with compressed air. That’s definitely a plus, but I can still make it to the trash bin in 30 seconds with my cordless vacuum.
Illo77 schrieb:
4. Power: Strong suction and flexible use—you can plug the hose into an outlet in the garage and vacuum the car without needing a separate vacuum stored in the garage or bringing one from inside. Especially for cars, you can never have too much power. Whether I take my cordless vacuum or use a 5–10 m (16–33 ft) hose makes little difference to me.
Illo77 schrieb:
5. Space-saving wall mount: The device hangs neatly on the wall, no vacuum stored on the floor in a corner that can get blocked or needs to be cleared. Modern cordless vacuums also hang on wall mounts. Basic vacuum cleaners can also be stood upright against a wall without anything needing to be moved in front of them. Just because a device hangs on the wall doesn’t mean the space in front is blocked. For me, this argument doesn’t hold.
Illo77 schrieb:
Also, even our 1000 euro (about $1100) Vorwerk vacuum wasn’t that great in terms of the suction pipe quality. Robot vacuums don’t work well in single-family houses (they can’t climb stairs), and a hose is easier to carry up stairs than a regular vacuum cleaner. I have a robot vacuum for upstairs and downstairs. It does 90% of the work. The rest is done with a cordless vacuum. Total cost combined: 1000€ (about $1100).
The only valid argument is the issue with house dust. If other devices didn’t help with that, it’s great you found something that works, but the other points are mostly seen through fan-colored glasses.
Everywhere? I have one outlet on the ground floor and one on the upper floor (which is also enough to vacuum the attic). You don’t need more than that in the house. I also had one installed in the garage (the garage is basically on the other side of the wall where the unit is located).
As a firefighter, I’m used to carrying long hoses over my shoulder, so maybe that’s my advantage. In any case, it’s much lighter (also in terms of weight) and easier to handle than a regular vacuum cleaner.
And my door frames are intact.
As a firefighter, I’m used to carrying long hoses over my shoulder, so maybe that’s my advantage. In any case, it’s much lighter (also in terms of weight) and easier to handle than a regular vacuum cleaner.
And my door frames are intact.
Fine dust is either extracted by the controlled residential ventilation system and trapped in the filter, or the robot vacuum cleaner is equipped with a HEPA microfilter if desired. If problems persist, you may be highly sensitive and should consider options such as flooring and other factors.
2 small children, 1 dog, and a cat mean you have to vacuum at least once a day if you want to keep things clean. The dog runs in and out of the garden several times a day, the kids play outside a lot and come inside as they are for a drink, and there are almost daily playdates at our house (this is how it is living in the countryside with a large property/garden with a play paradise, ...on smooth floors like laminate and tiles (we have no other type) you can clearly see the dirt, and I want to get rid of it before it gets spread all over the place...the sofa gets vacuumed daily, the kids like to make themselves a sandwich sometimes, which crumbs up the kitchen or grab a cookie in the afternoon that creates crumbs...
Wow, it must be a controlled ventilation system that blows your hair back if it’s supposed to catch all the fine dust =) But most of it settles everywhere and gets stirred up again. It’s not without reason that, for example, PVC flooring poses a fine dust risk, because dust settles on it, PVC off-gasses, and the dust absorbs that, which you then inhale... Robot vacuums with filters = less suction power; the increased resistance reduces performance, that’s just how it is. With a robot vacuum, I’d probably have to empty it every few days and carry it upstairs. It will probably get down on its own (fell down). A robot can only run if all doors are open and floors are clear. That already doesn’t work because during the day when we are working, the living room, guest bathroom, and bedroom are closed so the dog and cat can’t get in, so the vacuum would need to be started manually while we’re home. But I don’t want to start it manually—that defeats the purpose of a programmable cleaning schedule—and I don’t want to trip over the thing or have to watch where it’s driving while I’m home, not to mention the playing children. I’m going out on a limb and say it wouldn’t last long here. Upstairs is similar—the kids’ rooms should be tidied in the morning, but they still play before going to daycare and school, so that’s unlikely. When the older one is doing homework, he probably doesn’t want the vacuum moving around disturbing him, and the younger one will want to play and not put his things away. We tidy up in the evening and then go to bed. A robot like that might work well for one- or two-person households... I remember when I lived alone, I vacuumed once a week, and that was enough—then a robot vacuum might have been an option, or for large open areas.
I have the comparison between a central vacuum system and a classic vacuum or cordless vacuum (which I had when I lived alone) and I will never want to use anything else again.
Wow, it must be a controlled ventilation system that blows your hair back if it’s supposed to catch all the fine dust =) But most of it settles everywhere and gets stirred up again. It’s not without reason that, for example, PVC flooring poses a fine dust risk, because dust settles on it, PVC off-gasses, and the dust absorbs that, which you then inhale... Robot vacuums with filters = less suction power; the increased resistance reduces performance, that’s just how it is. With a robot vacuum, I’d probably have to empty it every few days and carry it upstairs. It will probably get down on its own (fell down). A robot can only run if all doors are open and floors are clear. That already doesn’t work because during the day when we are working, the living room, guest bathroom, and bedroom are closed so the dog and cat can’t get in, so the vacuum would need to be started manually while we’re home. But I don’t want to start it manually—that defeats the purpose of a programmable cleaning schedule—and I don’t want to trip over the thing or have to watch where it’s driving while I’m home, not to mention the playing children. I’m going out on a limb and say it wouldn’t last long here. Upstairs is similar—the kids’ rooms should be tidied in the morning, but they still play before going to daycare and school, so that’s unlikely. When the older one is doing homework, he probably doesn’t want the vacuum moving around disturbing him, and the younger one will want to play and not put his things away. We tidy up in the evening and then go to bed. A robot like that might work well for one- or two-person households... I remember when I lived alone, I vacuumed once a week, and that was enough—then a robot vacuum might have been an option, or for large open areas.
Illo77 wrote:Whether I take my cordless vacuum or use a 5/10m (16/33 ft) hose doesn’t change much. Look, then we at least don’t need to argue about that anymore.
4. Power: Strong suction and flexible use, like plugging the hose into the outlet in the garage to vacuum the car without having a separate vacuum stored there or needing to carry the indoor vacuum outside. Especially for a car, I think you can never have enough power.
I have the comparison between a central vacuum system and a classic vacuum or cordless vacuum (which I had when I lived alone) and I will never want to use anything else again.
Well, okay, based on your description, the system seems to be a good alternative for you. There are also people who still prefer radiators or oil heating, or even wash their dishes by hand (mostly older generations).
These are exceptions and not representative of the typical home builder.
These are exceptions and not representative of the typical home builder.
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hampshire25 Nov 2019 23:14@Illo77: The connection "screwing on" sounds like a standard one – could the same nozzles from a car vacuum cleaner at the gas station fit?
For allergy sufferers, there is no better system than a central vacuum system.
By the way, we no longer have a dishwasher and don’t miss it. We probably also don’t have average cutlery, dishes, or glasses... and at ages 48 and 50, we are already among the older generations...
Have you ever seen radiators by Tubes? They look like sculptures. But design and art aren’t for “average people,” right?
You buy yourself a great car; someone else spends the same money on a painting for their wall. There’s no reason to shake your head at each other.
It’s fine if you take the “average person” as your standard. It’s not okay to look down on others just because they don’t fit your worldview.
Bookstar schrieb:Again, your world of “average people”...
Well, okay, as you describe it, the system seems to be a good alternative for you. There are also people who still prefer radiators or oil heating, or even wash their dishes by hand (mainly older generations).
These are exceptions and not representative of the average homeowner.
For allergy sufferers, there is no better system than a central vacuum system.
By the way, we no longer have a dishwasher and don’t miss it. We probably also don’t have average cutlery, dishes, or glasses... and at ages 48 and 50, we are already among the older generations...
Have you ever seen radiators by Tubes? They look like sculptures. But design and art aren’t for “average people,” right?
You buy yourself a great car; someone else spends the same money on a painting for their wall. There’s no reason to shake your head at each other.
It’s fine if you take the “average person” as your standard. It’s not okay to look down on others just because they don’t fit your worldview.
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