ᐅ Is it possible to install recessed lights with HaloX housings?

Created on: 16 Apr 2020 16:27
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annab377
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annab377
16 Apr 2020 16:27
Hello everyone,

I plan to use the LED Nova IP65 recessed light round max. 35W white/chrome 1-piece set pivotable (item no.: 936.63) from Paulmann in the panel ceiling of my bathroom. Now I am wondering how this works with the HaloX boxes.

Looking at the pictures on the Paulmann website, it seems these recessed lights are designed more for suspended ceilings because of the two small side legs that, with the springs, are pressed against the suspended ceiling.

How is it possible to install these spotlights with HaloX boxes? Using a 100mm (4 inches) box probably won’t work, as the side legs would likely hit the box walls. So, you would need to use a (significantly?) more expensive 180mm (7 inches) box so that it resembles a "suspended" ceiling and the legs rest on the front edge of the box. Or am I misunderstanding this?

Thank you in advance for your answers.

Are there actually other box suppliers besides HaloX from Kaiser-Elektro? Or does almost every ceiling manufacturer use HaloX?

I already asked Paulmann, but they have no experience with the HaloX boxes...

Best regards
annab377

White round recessed downlight with clips, cable, and plug connections.


Technical drawing: two brackets, hoses/cables, X markings, spacing >200 mm


Technical drawing of a recessed ceiling light: Ø93 mm (3.7 inches), 30° tilt, 12V/230V.
Mycraft16 Apr 2020 16:37
You could also fit it into the 100mm (4 inches) size, and that would hold quite well, but if you want to be on the safe side, it’s better to use the 180mm (7 inches) size.
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annab377
16 Apr 2020 17:30
Okay, thanks for your reply. With the 100 mm (4 inches) boxes, the two external legs would rest against the walls, and you think it would still hold up well that way?

Because the part that has to go through the hole is already 83 mm (3.3 inches). That means there’s only about 8 mm (0.3 inches) left on each side inside the 100 mm (4 inches) box, and I believe the legs are much longer than 8 mm (0.3 inches) or need significantly more space than 8 mm (0.3 inches) to rest downward as shown in the middle picture (with what seems to be the suspended ceiling).
Mycraft16 Apr 2020 17:40
That's why I'm suggesting you go with the 180mm (7 inch) option.
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annab377
16 Apr 2020 17:58
Do you have any rough estimates on how much more expensive that would be? How much does a 180mm (7 inch) box with a lid usually cost? Does anyone know?
I’ve read that you usually have to get the boxes through the ceiling manufacturers anyway, right? They then set the prices for you.
Mycraft16 Apr 2020 18:25
You’ve already realized that the person installing the ceiling also controls the pricing.

Very roughly estimated, it’s probably around 10-15 euros more per can. But this is not guaranteed.