ᐅ Is it possible to install recessed lights with HaloX housings?

Created on: 16 Apr 2020 16:27
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annab377
Hello everyone,

I plan to use the LED Nova IP65 recessed light round max. 35W white/chrome 1-piece set pivotable (item no.: 936.63) from Paulmann in the panel ceiling of my bathroom. Now I am wondering how this works with the HaloX boxes.

Looking at the pictures on the Paulmann website, it seems these recessed lights are designed more for suspended ceilings because of the two small side legs that, with the springs, are pressed against the suspended ceiling.

How is it possible to install these spotlights with HaloX boxes? Using a 100mm (4 inches) box probably won’t work, as the side legs would likely hit the box walls. So, you would need to use a (significantly?) more expensive 180mm (7 inches) box so that it resembles a "suspended" ceiling and the legs rest on the front edge of the box. Or am I misunderstanding this?

Thank you in advance for your answers.

Are there actually other box suppliers besides HaloX from Kaiser-Elektro? Or does almost every ceiling manufacturer use HaloX?

I already asked Paulmann, but they have no experience with the HaloX boxes...

Best regards
annab377

White round recessed downlight with clips, cable, and plug connections.


Technical drawing: two brackets, hoses/cables, X markings, spacing >200 mm


Technical drawing of a recessed ceiling light: Ø93 mm (3.7 inches), 30° tilt, 12V/230V.
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annab377
16 Apr 2020 18:44
Good, good. And is the HaloX the only option on the market, basically a monopoly? Because the prices for a plastic junction box seem extremely high to me, considering the material costs.
Mycraft16 Apr 2020 19:21
You don’t really think an iPhone costs over 1000 euros when you add up the price of its individual components, do you?

If you don’t want to spend that much money, just use heat-shrink couplings.
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annab377
16 Apr 2020 19:28
Well, the comparison with Apple products is a bit off. You can do a lot with those, and they have relatively high quality (not to mention issues around handling user data, and so on).

Who actually uses HaloX sleeves when you can also use PVC socket sleeves? That’s what I meant—they are relatively expensive just because they leave a void in the concrete ceiling during the production of precast ceilings. The PVC socket sleeves you mentioned can do the same. Or perhaps the ceiling manufacturers block the use of PVC socket sleeves because they have contracts with Kaiser Elektro?
Mycraft16 Apr 2020 19:34
The comparison with Apple is simply because everyone immediately understands what is meant.

The Kaiser cans are tested and approved for this purpose. KG sockets, however, are not.
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annab377
16 Apr 2020 19:34
But I don’t want to go deeper into the price question or discussion here.

It really depends on the ceiling manufacturer which electrical box they specify, or whether they are flexible enough to let the customer decide or buy their own. However, from what I’ve read online, that is probably very rare. So you have to follow whatever the ceiling manufacturer requires.

And it seems that Kaiser Elektro is often involved in this decision.
Mycraft16 Apr 2020 19:37
Kaiser simply makes high-quality products. Once you have one in your hand, you will know what I mean.