ᐅ Photovoltaics at Any Cost – Current Situation and Available Options

Created on: 31 Jul 2022 13:22
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HnghusBY
Hello everyone,

After countless rejections due to overload, availability, and delivery issues, I have finally received an offer for a photovoltaic system.
The system is planned for our new build (completion in 2023). We have a gable roof, almost south-facing, with a 30-degree pitch, fully usable, about 50 sqm (540 sq ft) of roof area per side.
The house is being built in Bavaria, about 60 km (37 miles) from Thuringia.

The offer surprised me a bit. The following items are included:
14x MAXEON modules at 430 W each, heat pump system, totaling 6.02 kWp - €11,138
1x Tesla Powerwall 2.0, 13.5 kWh - €10,400
Installation, etc. - €3,130
Total: €24,668 net

I find that quite expensive. I would leave out the battery anyway, but even then, I think the price for the 6 kWp system is too high. Apparently, this is currently the price you pay in Bavaria if you can find someone at all. For me, the question is whether it even makes sense to invest right now or just pay for electricity. Of course, it’s a matter of calculation, but if you follow the discussions here, those prices seem sky-high — or not?
Is it better to get offers from other regions? Are there any recommendations around the 97XXX area?
HausiKlausi26 Nov 2022 22:37
There are various speculations here about future electricity prices. The question for people currently without photovoltaic systems is: Is it reasonable to confidently expect falling prices for procurement and installation (due to the anticipated drop in construction activity)? Or will the situation worsen because of multiple geopolitical crises (material shortages, etc.) and the deliberate push for more photovoltaic energy? Of course, this is a crystal ball question. But gut feelings also matter! 😉
Tolentino26 Nov 2022 22:47
I think it’s just going to get worse. I’ll try to manage something with self-installation and a friendly electrician.
If you ever read: "Electrician from Berlin kidnapped," it wasn’t me! :p
face2626 Nov 2022 22:47
The declining construction activity will not change that.
My gut feeling is that prices will continue to rise in the short term.
Perhaps in a few years, once supply shortages have been resolved and capacities have adjusted.
HausiKlausi26 Nov 2022 23:27
Tolentino schrieb:

If you ever read: "Berlin electrician kidnapped." It wasn’t me! :p

If that ever happens (not by you, of course!), we basically live around the corner... Three days more or less won’t make much difference. Although, kidnapping the modules will be much harder.
Tolentino26 Nov 2022 23:31
Modules are the only items you can still somewhat reliably get. Inverters, personnel, and installation materials are in short supply.

But yes, once I’m done, I’ll lend you my large carpet... 😉
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WilderSueden
26 Nov 2022 23:56
HausiKlausi schrieb:

There are various speculations here about the future electricity prices we might face. The question for people without photovoltaic systems at the moment is: Is it reasonable to expect prices for procurement and installation to fall (due to the anticipated downturn in construction activity)? Or will the situation worsen because of multiple global political crises (material shortages, etc.) and the intentional push for more photovoltaics as an energy source? Of course, this is a crystal ball question. But gut feelings count too! 😉

The demand for photovoltaics is likely to keep increasing. High electricity prices combined with rising consumption from the electrification of vehicles and heating, photovoltaic mandates, as well as the political drive for large-scale ground-mounted systems all contribute to this. Material supply will probably grow in the medium term; global capitalism is quite effective at meeting such demand. However, skilled labor on site is expected to remain scarce.

Therefore, it is possible that a certain price peak will ease. But the rough cost estimates from 2-3 years ago will certainly not be achievable anymore. Would I buy a system right now? Probably not. The situation is simply too volatile to make a reliable calculation.