ᐅ House and Floor Plan Design – Initial Architect’s Draft Available
Created on: 14 Oct 2020 18:29
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Pinkiponk
As previously announced, our old house in Baden-Württemberg has now been sold, we have moved to the Leipzig district, and we can now focus on our new house. Due to our age, we have deliberately downsized both the lot size and the living space. We have a first architect’s draft. I have already noted a few change requests and am now looking forward to your additions, criticism, and suggestions. If further plans or similar are needed, I will gladly provide them as long as I have them available.
Thank you in advance for taking the time to help me.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Lot size: 567sqm (6,105 sqft)
Slope: visually not noticeable; if this is important information, I will look for where to find it
Site occupancy index: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: see attached drawing
Edge development: not allowed/desired on our part
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: classic, conservative
Orientation: ?
Maximum heights/limits: “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to ridge height of main roof max. 11.5 meters (38 feet)”; “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to eave height of main roof max. 7.0 meters (23 feet)”
Further requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: we are trying to approximate the house shown in the photo below; however, without the gable projection; classic/conservative, hipped roof, town house
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: 1 male, 64 years old – 1 female, 58 years old
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor → kitchen, shower bathroom, living/lounge room, utility room with kitchenette and floor drain, hallway;
Upper floor → bathroom with tub, bedroom, 2 “wardrobe and storage rooms”
Office: family use or home office? Couple without children, no home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 10
Open or closed architecture: open on the outside, closed on the inside
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, cooking island: no, classical L-shaped kitchen or similar (the plan includes a cooking island that will not be built)
Number of dining seats: 2 in the kitchen, up to 6–8 in the living/lounge room
Fireplace: gas stove chimney
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: both no
Garage, carport: 2 arched carports
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: both no
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be
House Design
Who created the plan:
– Planner from a construction company: yes, in cooperation with the clients
– Architect: unclear
– Do-it-yourself: yes, in cooperation with the prefabricated house manufacturer’s planner
What do you especially like? Why? Many windows and patio doors, lots of natural light and fresh air
What do you not like? Why? The windows on the upper floor are too low in the plan, but this will be changed
Price estimate according to architect/planner: already commissioned offer/order €312,780.00 (without carport, outdoor facilities, additional construction costs, land, ...)
Personal price limit for the house including equipment: €400,000.00
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler plus solar thermal (according to legal requirements)
If you have to forgo something, which details/upgrades
– What you can give up: we are already giving up shutters, whirlpool
– What you cannot give up: many windows and patio doors, muntins in the windows and doors
Why is the design as it is? For example:
A mixture of many examples from various magazines…
What do you think makes it good or bad? It generally meets our wishes. On the ground floor, we want access to the garden from every room. We find symmetry more pleasing than asymmetry. Few different window and door formats. No horizontal (“lying”) windows. Each of us has a separate room for clothing and such, so that no wardrobes have to be placed in the bedroom. We do not want a separate dressing room.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The roof seems somewhat steep to me. Is a 30-degree roof pitch for a house with a base of 9.40m x 9.40m (31 feet x 31 feet) too steep? The standard according to the provider is 22 degrees. That seemed too flat, or you can hardly see the roof.
The development plan was too large to upload; I will try again in a separate post in this thread.
Thank you in advance for taking the time to help me.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Lot size: 567sqm (6,105 sqft)
Slope: visually not noticeable; if this is important information, I will look for where to find it
Site occupancy index: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: see attached drawing
Edge development: not allowed/desired on our part
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: classic, conservative
Orientation: ?
Maximum heights/limits: “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to ridge height of main roof max. 11.5 meters (38 feet)”; “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to eave height of main roof max. 7.0 meters (23 feet)”
Further requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: we are trying to approximate the house shown in the photo below; however, without the gable projection; classic/conservative, hipped roof, town house
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: 1 male, 64 years old – 1 female, 58 years old
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor → kitchen, shower bathroom, living/lounge room, utility room with kitchenette and floor drain, hallway;
Upper floor → bathroom with tub, bedroom, 2 “wardrobe and storage rooms”
Office: family use or home office? Couple without children, no home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 10
Open or closed architecture: open on the outside, closed on the inside
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, cooking island: no, classical L-shaped kitchen or similar (the plan includes a cooking island that will not be built)
Number of dining seats: 2 in the kitchen, up to 6–8 in the living/lounge room
Fireplace: gas stove chimney
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: both no
Garage, carport: 2 arched carports
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: both no
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be
House Design
Who created the plan:
– Planner from a construction company: yes, in cooperation with the clients
– Architect: unclear
– Do-it-yourself: yes, in cooperation with the prefabricated house manufacturer’s planner
What do you especially like? Why? Many windows and patio doors, lots of natural light and fresh air
What do you not like? Why? The windows on the upper floor are too low in the plan, but this will be changed
Price estimate according to architect/planner: already commissioned offer/order €312,780.00 (without carport, outdoor facilities, additional construction costs, land, ...)
Personal price limit for the house including equipment: €400,000.00
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler plus solar thermal (according to legal requirements)
If you have to forgo something, which details/upgrades
– What you can give up: we are already giving up shutters, whirlpool
– What you cannot give up: many windows and patio doors, muntins in the windows and doors
Why is the design as it is? For example:
A mixture of many examples from various magazines…
What do you think makes it good or bad? It generally meets our wishes. On the ground floor, we want access to the garden from every room. We find symmetry more pleasing than asymmetry. Few different window and door formats. No horizontal (“lying”) windows. Each of us has a separate room for clothing and such, so that no wardrobes have to be placed in the bedroom. We do not want a separate dressing room.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The roof seems somewhat steep to me. Is a 30-degree roof pitch for a house with a base of 9.40m x 9.40m (31 feet x 31 feet) too steep? The standard according to the provider is 22 degrees. That seemed too flat, or you can hardly see the roof.
The development plan was too large to upload; I will try again in a separate post in this thread.
RomeoZwo schrieb:
whether you want to build a house for your (current) needs or a house that you can reasonably resell in 10 (!) years and that meets the typical needs of a family today. [...]
- for HIS and HERS rooms, for example, I would expect a large sliding door. The oversized bathroom with a garden view will probably be less appreciated by potential buyers than an additional storage room or a walk-in closet, etc. ... Basically, I don’t necessarily see an either/or situation between a house individually tailored to a couple in their “prime years” and one that can be minimally modified for a future family like the Müllermeyer-Schulzes. However, the bathroom with a sauna—which is also a standalone design flaw—is highly atypical for a villa alternative (especially within the nine-and-a-half meter class) and, by itself, a polarizing feature when it comes to resale. @Nordlys also has a house that is only conditionally “family-friendly,” but I don’t see that as a major disadvantage for selling—in a few years, the niche market for handing over properties “within the senior community” will likely become more fluid. A sliding door between the His and Hers rooms would have to be a real all-rounder; otherwise, the TV-watching him will disturb the reading her acoustically.
Similarly, I would reject a pass-through window, as nosy cooks popping up behind such openings only make an insecure cook even more nervous (and, to my knowledge, these have never really won residents’ hearts). Is this the start of an internal forum camping visit?
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Pinkiponk15 Oct 2020 18:3911ant schrieb:
The bathroom with a sauna—which was also planned as a standalone feature—is highly unusual for a one-family house, especially within the nine-and-a-half meters (about 31 feet) width class, and on its own it could be a polarizing factor when reselling. I have no influence on the design of the bathroom upstairs. My husband wants a sauna. I would prefer a smaller bathroom and a larger bedroom, but I can accept it. It’s just a house.
@Nordlys also has a house that is only partially “family-friendly,” but I don’t see that as a major disadvantage for resale—within a few years, the currently niche market of selling properties “within the over-50 community” will flow more easily. A sliding door between his and her rooms would have to be a real all-rounder, otherwise the TV watcher would likely disturb the reader acoustically.
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11ant schrieb:
I would also reject a pass-through window, since pot-watchers sneaking in from behind only unsettle an insecure cook even more (and as far as I remember, these have never really become popular with residents). Is an impromptu forum camping visit about to happen here? I could live well with a pass-through window, since I can close it (a closed door sends a different message). My husband wants an open kitchen. The result was a compromise that works well for both of us.
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Pinkiponk15 Oct 2020 18:42ypg schrieb:
My second edit comes too late, so here’s a new post:
For a nostalgic style, I wouldn’t choose a straight staircase but at least a quarter-turn staircase – it creates a cozier atmosphere, which fits the nostalgic feel.Does a quarter-turn staircase mean more wall space? I relied on the planner/architect for that aspect. We can probably still change it if there is enough space.P
Pinkiponk15 Oct 2020 18:45RomeoZwo schrieb:
What you really need to be clear about quickly is whether you want to build a house for your (current) needs or a house that you can reasonably resell in 10 (!) years, while still meeting the typical needs of a family today.
What you are showing here is neither one thing nor the other. The kitchen suits your needs (which isn’t that important), but probably not those of a family who might buy the house. The two home offices instead of the "classic" children's bedrooms – for the HIS and HERS rooms, for example, I would expect a large sliding door. The oversized bathroom with garden view is likely less appreciated by a potential buyer family than an additional storage room or a walk-in closet, etc.… You’re right. But maybe families with children also like having a sauna in the bathroom, especially since it can be removed later and replaced with cabinets or similar. The upstairs bathroom is designed to meet my husband’s wishes, and it’s not so important to me.
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Pinkiponk15 Oct 2020 18:48Flocko1 schrieb:
@Pinkiponk
I really like how you incorporate your ideas into your house project. Building a house isn’t an everyday thing. As mentioned, tastes vary. The important thing is that you feel comfortable in your new home later on.
I wish you all the best with the construction. Thanks. When you think about it, it’s just a house. I can sleep there, take a shower, look out the window, go into the garden, eat chocolate, read, listen to music... At the moment, we’re temporarily living in a 78 m² (840 sq ft) rental apartment and I feel completely at ease. Basically, I’m probably more of an apartment person, but then what to do with the extra money?
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