Bought a house, estimated the renovation budget plus 10-15% for inevitable extras, and we set aside 5000 EUR for the kitchen!!!!
That’s how it started... at first, I was in a bit of shock, but we still had time. First step: remove all the walls for a new layout—I need space...
Let’s start with the (according to the agent) move-in ready property. The small kitchen, just under 8 square meters (about 86 square feet), had its 1970s pass-through removed. The wall including the kitchen door is gone! The wall next to the cellar stairs is gone too! Actually, the entire slanted wall, nearly 7 meters (23 feet) high, removed completely...
The window had to go as well since we needed a different working height than the standard 90 cm (35 inches). New screed installed, we switched to underfloor heating, all electrical wiring and water pipes are new.
After almost six months, the realization slowly sank in: the kitchen budget will not exceed 5000 EUR, so we had to look for a used kitchen... something special, but very cheap.
The search criteria: within a 100 km (62 miles) radius, up to 1000 EUR, because I still want new appliances.
That’s how it started... at first, I was in a bit of shock, but we still had time. First step: remove all the walls for a new layout—I need space...
Let’s start with the (according to the agent) move-in ready property. The small kitchen, just under 8 square meters (about 86 square feet), had its 1970s pass-through removed. The wall including the kitchen door is gone! The wall next to the cellar stairs is gone too! Actually, the entire slanted wall, nearly 7 meters (23 feet) high, removed completely...
The window had to go as well since we needed a different working height than the standard 90 cm (35 inches). New screed installed, we switched to underfloor heating, all electrical wiring and water pipes are new.
After almost six months, the realization slowly sank in: the kitchen budget will not exceed 5000 EUR, so we had to look for a used kitchen... something special, but very cheap.
The search criteria: within a 100 km (62 miles) radius, up to 1000 EUR, because I still want new appliances.
chand1986 schrieb:
@aero2016
I agree with that, but why be so gloomy? Not every private kitchen user is an “experienced” cook.Yes, you’re right. I just always find it a shame when so much money is spent on kitchens and then the planning turns out... well, just like that.C
chand198630 Aug 2020 22:08Aero, I am a heavy user of a kitchen. For me, almost every minute spent planning and executing is worthwhile.
But that’s quite specific; the average usage behavior is significantly different. Accordingly, deviations from the optimum occur when handles are not aligned or work surfaces are not ideally positioned for daily use.
I am currently cooking in a rental kitchen that is okay but miles away from what I would design myself.
The food still tastes good. I have cooked well on gas burners before. You either can or you can't… In the end, the kitchen itself is secondary to that. Judging its aesthetics solely based on functionality is, well…
But that’s quite specific; the average usage behavior is significantly different. Accordingly, deviations from the optimum occur when handles are not aligned or work surfaces are not ideally positioned for daily use.
I am currently cooking in a rental kitchen that is okay but miles away from what I would design myself.
The food still tastes good. I have cooked well on gas burners before. You either can or you can't… In the end, the kitchen itself is secondary to that. Judging its aesthetics solely based on functionality is, well…
chand1986 schrieb:
So to define its aesthetics solely by its functionality, well... I’m not doing that at all. Neither one fits here. I find that very unfortunate.
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pagoni202031 Aug 2020 10:31One can assume that @Peter Silie considered his own personal “usefulness” and tailored it to his individual needs instead of following a prescribed mainstream approach. Thankfully, people are different, so diversity should not be surprising—in fact, it is the absence of diversity that is unusual.
Therefore, I can appreciate that HE likes his kitchen, and that alone is what matters!
A true aesthete is especially free in spirit and appreciates all things beautiful, including the beauty of words and a refined manner in dealing with other people and tastes.
The self-proclaimed aesthete who rigidly applies narrow standards and social constraints as universally valid definitions of beauty or aesthetics often just follows expensive fashion trends or preset fads that they cling to because they lack the freedom to pursue their own unique sense of aesthetics.
Someone like @Peter Silie, who feels comfortable in his own kitchen or anywhere else in life, has done EVERYTHING right for himself!
Trying to deny someone this satisfaction or joy, in my opinion, rather suggests one’s own dissatisfaction or envy of that happiness.
Maybe our “aesthete” here will post his own pictures of his house, kitchen, hairstyle, etc. (though that courage will probably be missing); if he did, the responses would likely show that aesthetics, like art, are mostly in the eye of the beholder, and his idea of aesthetics might be laughed at by others.
Therefore, I can appreciate that HE likes his kitchen, and that alone is what matters!
A true aesthete is especially free in spirit and appreciates all things beautiful, including the beauty of words and a refined manner in dealing with other people and tastes.
The self-proclaimed aesthete who rigidly applies narrow standards and social constraints as universally valid definitions of beauty or aesthetics often just follows expensive fashion trends or preset fads that they cling to because they lack the freedom to pursue their own unique sense of aesthetics.
Someone like @Peter Silie, who feels comfortable in his own kitchen or anywhere else in life, has done EVERYTHING right for himself!
Trying to deny someone this satisfaction or joy, in my opinion, rather suggests one’s own dissatisfaction or envy of that happiness.
Maybe our “aesthete” here will post his own pictures of his house, kitchen, hairstyle, etc. (though that courage will probably be missing); if he did, the responses would likely show that aesthetics, like art, are mostly in the eye of the beholder, and his idea of aesthetics might be laughed at by others.
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