ᐅ Single-family house – flat roof – edge of forest location – 175 sqm

Created on: 16 Feb 2019 22:03
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benediktr
After being a silent reader in this forum for a long time, I would now like to share my thoughts and ideas with you. I hope to receive some suggestions for improvement and constructive feedback.

Unfortunately, I cannot provide a site plan at the moment. Therefore, here is a screenshot of the property. I have roughly traced it on the ground floor plan. The exact orientation definitely needs further planning. It is plot number 51.

Below, I try to outline the essentials in the questionnaire.

Development plan/restrictions
Section 34 of the Building Code
Plot size
580 sqm (6,243 sq ft)
Slope
No direct slope; terrain descends about 3 m (10 ft) from north to south and roughly 3 m (10 ft) from west to east; retaining wall to the south present
Building setbacks
North/East/South – 3 m (10 ft), West – 6 m (20 ft)
Number of parking spaces
1-2
Number of floors
2 full stories plus basement
Roof type
Flat roof
Architectural style
Modern
Orientation
Southwest
Maximum heights/limits
-
Other specifications

Owners’ requirements
Room layout as shown in the plan; spacious living-dining-kitchen area
Style, roof type, building type
Flat roof
Number of occupants, ages
Currently 2 people, 28 and 26 years old; planning for 1-2 children
Room requirements on ground floor (GF) and upper floor (UF)
GF: living, dining, kitchen, utility room, WC
UF: bathroom, 2 children's rooms, bedroom plus walk-in closet
Office: family use or home office?
Family use
Guest overnight stays per year
Very seldom
Open or closed architecture
Open
Conservative or modern construction
Modern construction
Open kitchen, kitchen island
Yes
Number of dining seats
6
Fireplace
Corner fireplace
Music/stereo wall
No
Additional wishes/particularities/daily routine, including reasons for preferences
- Staircase from ground floor to upper floor should start in the dining area and not be visible from the living room
- Living room preferably on the west side, as we both work very long hours

House design
Who did the planning?
Do-it-yourself, using various floor plans as templates
What do you particularly like? Why?
Straight staircase, layout of living, dining, and kitchen areas, corner fireplace
What do you not like? Why?
I am unsure if the rooms upstairs might be a bit too narrow due to the straight staircase. This could be improved with a landing staircase, but that is just a minor point to accept.
Estimated cost according to architect/planner:
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings:
450,000
Preferred heating technology:
Gas condensing boiler, possibly with a water jacket in the fireplace

If you have to give up something, what details/features
- can you forgo? Partition separating the WC in the bathroom
- cannot you do without? Walk-in closet

Why did the design become what it is now?
Room orientation on the plot guided the design based on our wishes. View to the west, looking over forest and fields. Access from the north to avoid an outdoor staircase.
What do you think are its strengths or weaknesses?
We would prefer to avoid floor-to-ceiling windows on the south side, as the neighbor’s front door is there, which is not ideal for brightness. Large window fronts on the west side due to the view, as mentioned. A window in the walk-in closet could still be planned.

What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Do you think the upper floor rooms might feel "narrow and elongated"? Budget?

Floor plan of a building with several rooms, corridors, doors and shaded walls; measurements in sqm.


Floor plan of a house with kitchen/dining, living room, corridor, utility room, WC and garden.


Floor plan of an apartment: bedroom with walk-in closet, bathroom, corridor, children’s/office/guest room.


Aerial view of a residential area with yellow plot lines, streets, and buildings.


Aerial image: houses on Gartenstrasse; retaining wall present.


Modern two-story house with large glass fronts, terrace and garden.
face2620 Jun 2019 15:11
Which overhang are you referring to?

Two-story modern house with gray upper floor, white ground floor facade, and large windows.


To be honest, I don’t quite understand the roof, but that might be because of the graphic. If you mean the part marked, sure, it’s possible, but it’s an unnecessary expense. Depending on the construction method, it has to be built accordingly and additionally insulated.
So the roof itself won’t have any overhang at all?

Edit: Will this be a flat roof or a single-pitch roof?
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benediktr
20 Jun 2019 17:59
face26 schrieb:

Which overhang do you mean exactly?



Honestly, I don’t fully understand the roof, but that might be due to the graphic. If you mean the highlighted one, sure, it's possible, but it will cost extra unnecessarily. Depending on the construction method, it would need to be built accordingly and additionally insulated.
The roof itself is not supposed to have an overhang?

Edit: Is this going to be a flat roof or a shed roof?

It will be a shed roof, but I can’t represent it any better. However, I meant that Child 2’s room is located above the covered outdoor seating area. I illustrated this in the graphic below. Is a thick insulation layer enough here, or will I encounter problems?

Floor plan of a children’s room: Child 1, 18.65 m² (201 sq ft); bed on the right, desk with chair
face2620 Jun 2019 18:10
No, that’s doable, it just needs to be properly insulated. Depending on the structural engineering, you may need a support post and/or more steel reinforcement and/or part of the exterior wall will be concreted. There are different approaches depending on the size of the overhang. Your structural engineer will advise you.
It will definitely involve additional costs.
11ant21 Jun 2019 00:02
benediktr schrieb:

I would like to explicitly ask again about the overhang of the upper floor for the outdoor seating area. Is something like this still commonly built, or is it accepted that this thermal bridge cannot be avoided? Or is there a technical solution to prevent a thermal bridge here?
The technical solution is called, for example, Isokorb by the company Schöck – however, I still consider the trend of complicating house designs unnecessarily just for style to be nonsense.
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benediktr
21 Jun 2019 17:04
11ant schrieb:

The technical solution is called Isokorb by the company Schöck, for example – however, I still consider the trend of wanting to "spice up" houses with design complications to be nonsense.

By now, I am familiar with your viewpoint on this subject. However, I do not see a cantilevered upper floor or an inset lower floor as a mere trend. For me, this is a technical solution for a covered outdoor seating area. Additionally, I like the resulting layout of the ground floor.

Whether Isokorbs are necessary will be determined by the architect or structural engineer. This would mean that the ceiling of the ground floor would have to be poured in two sections. Possibly, insulation alone might suffice.
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hampshire
21 Jun 2019 17:15
11ant schrieb:

The technical solution is called Isokorb by the company Schöck, for example – but I still think the trend of trying to "spice up" houses with complicated designs is nonsense.

Most of us are doing some kind of wonderful nonsense with our houses anyway, right?