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Burner6103 Jun 2019 22:52Hi, I received a quote for a solid masonry house. Maybe some of you have opinions on it.
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Burner6104 Jun 2019 07:10I’ve thought the same, especially with the doors it probably won’t be cost-effective! I still need to check on the tiles, luckily we have a tile installer in the family.
I estimated the additional construction costs at around 40,000 to 50,000 euros. The fully serviced plot costs 22,500 euros.
Then there’s also the landscaping and outdoor work.
For example, I’m not sure about the heating system. In the version listed above, it’s only about 1,000 euros more expensive than the gas system with solar and underfloor heating—taking into account the credit for the eco tech package and subtracting the gas connection, which is no longer needed.
Otherwise, I think the offer is very good for the living area. If I do the math, that’s just under 1,400 euros per square meter.
I estimated the additional construction costs at around 40,000 to 50,000 euros. The fully serviced plot costs 22,500 euros.
Then there’s also the landscaping and outdoor work.
For example, I’m not sure about the heating system. In the version listed above, it’s only about 1,000 euros more expensive than the gas system with solar and underfloor heating—taking into account the credit for the eco tech package and subtracting the gas connection, which is no longer needed.
Otherwise, I think the offer is very good for the living area. If I do the math, that’s just under 1,400 euros per square meter.
Yes, it’s inexpensive. The question is what else needs to be added. For example, I notice missing painting work, such as on the base area, which is plastered separately. I also don’t see any gutters, downspouts, or any kind of drainage/sewer work. The bitumen membrane on the foundation slab is missing. Earthworks are missing, as well as soil reports and surveyor services. Flooring, apart from the deducted tiles. What about ventilation?
The electrical section is completely vague.
Is circulation included in the plumbing?
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The construction specification is pure chaos in terms of format and mostly not detailed enough.
A list of included services... try asking for the list of excluded services.
The electrical section is completely vague.
Is circulation included in the plumbing?
...
The construction specification is pure chaos in terms of format and mostly not detailed enough.
A list of included services... try asking for the list of excluded services.
Discount promotion! Well, then act quickly.
But this isn’t exactly a bargain.
There are experts who will dissect this scope of work.
Here are some things I notice and where I suspect extra charges or where, based on our own construction timeline, I see where some homeowners try to save money:
- Structural timber for the roof will likely be quite thin at this price
- Knee walls are low and barely usable
- Upper floor is not built with solid construction
- What kind of exterior plaster?
- Eaves boxes are not fully painted
- No window by the main entrance
- Windows with WK 1 (security class 1)
- Double casement windows in wood
- How many electrical outlets???
- There is no shower in the main bathroom; only in the guest WC
- ... Keramag or equivalent...
- 150L (40 gallons) hot water heater (actually 171L (45 gallons))... a few years ago, 300L (80 gallons) was standard...
- No tiles anymore in the utility room either...
- Tile sizes are missing, among other details
If you don’t expect a walk-in shower or a thermostat, if 30x30cm (12x12 inches) tiles with plastic corners are enough for you, if one lamp for outdoor lighting is sufficient, and so on, then you might manage with around $10,000 extra for non-essential upgrades.
But for things like the water heater, at least mineral-based plaster, controlled ventilation systems, plastic double casement windows, base cladding, etc., I think it’s worth considering going for a higher category, which will also increase the total cost significantly.
If it says “French window grilles,” beware, those can be the ugliest kinds, often with hefty extra costs. This scope hardly specifies any quality details, so on closer inspection, you either pick carefully or skip it altogether.
This scope of work is lacking in detail.
There are no door handles mentioned, nor the material of the front door. Are the exterior window sills unfinished or painted?
Do the bathrooms even have fixtures?
What is the electrical installation standard? Most likely, as usual: no LAN, one phone jack in the hallway, one doorbell, a stairway switch, and two outlets per bedroom. That’s a 1970s standard, so be careful and ask about additional costs!
Overall, you will probably fall into the affordable range, but it’s not the best quality materials... definitely better than renting.
Don’t forget the painting and flooring costs!
But this isn’t exactly a bargain.
There are experts who will dissect this scope of work.
Here are some things I notice and where I suspect extra charges or where, based on our own construction timeline, I see where some homeowners try to save money:
- Structural timber for the roof will likely be quite thin at this price
- Knee walls are low and barely usable
- Upper floor is not built with solid construction
- What kind of exterior plaster?
- Eaves boxes are not fully painted
- No window by the main entrance
- Windows with WK 1 (security class 1)
- Double casement windows in wood
- How many electrical outlets???
- There is no shower in the main bathroom; only in the guest WC
- ... Keramag or equivalent...
- 150L (40 gallons) hot water heater (actually 171L (45 gallons))... a few years ago, 300L (80 gallons) was standard...
- No tiles anymore in the utility room either...
- Tile sizes are missing, among other details
If you don’t expect a walk-in shower or a thermostat, if 30x30cm (12x12 inches) tiles with plastic corners are enough for you, if one lamp for outdoor lighting is sufficient, and so on, then you might manage with around $10,000 extra for non-essential upgrades.
But for things like the water heater, at least mineral-based plaster, controlled ventilation systems, plastic double casement windows, base cladding, etc., I think it’s worth considering going for a higher category, which will also increase the total cost significantly.
If it says “French window grilles,” beware, those can be the ugliest kinds, often with hefty extra costs. This scope hardly specifies any quality details, so on closer inspection, you either pick carefully or skip it altogether.
This scope of work is lacking in detail.
There are no door handles mentioned, nor the material of the front door. Are the exterior window sills unfinished or painted?
Do the bathrooms even have fixtures?
What is the electrical installation standard? Most likely, as usual: no LAN, one phone jack in the hallway, one doorbell, a stairway switch, and two outlets per bedroom. That’s a 1970s standard, so be careful and ask about additional costs!
Overall, you will probably fall into the affordable range, but it’s not the best quality materials... definitely better than renting.
Don’t forget the painting and flooring costs!
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Burner6104 Jun 2019 09:11I received the scope of construction services as a separate email. Can I attach a PDF file? It always shows an error.
The shower is to be installed upstairs in the bathroom. We will handle the sanitary fixtures, floor coverings, and painting/wallpapering ourselves.
Gutters and downspouts are included in the scope of construction services, as well as the groundwork. The double-wing wooden window is definitely not acceptable, I noticed that right away.
The shower is to be installed upstairs in the bathroom. We will handle the sanitary fixtures, floor coverings, and painting/wallpapering ourselves.
Gutters and downspouts are included in the scope of construction services, as well as the groundwork. The double-wing wooden window is definitely not acceptable, I noticed that right away.
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