ᐅ Which Cat cables should be installed on the exterior wall? Issues with moisture?
Created on: 24 Aug 2021 07:47
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Schimi1791
Hello everyone,
as I already mentioned in another thread, our internet connection in the house is quite basic, relying on Wi-Fi and repeaters. Now I have the following thought:
In a few days, work will begin on the facade. It will receive a new plaster finish. This would be a good opportunity to install additional cables on the exterior wall. The plan is to run wiring for extra lighting on the facade and at least two cables (3 x 2.5 mm2 (3 x 0.01 inch2)) for infrared heaters, which might be installed later under a patio cover. For this, corresponding channels will be cut into the existing facade and then replastered.
Now the question is: is it possible to run Cat cables along the facade to provide internet to all floors through wired connections? We would drill a hole in the exterior wall at the spot where the “router” is located in the living room and run the cables on the outside wall to the respective rooms. I assume moisture protection needs to be considered here? What type of cables would be required? Cat 5 should definitely be sufficient, right? What about potential moisture issues? Running cables along the exterior wall is, of course, not the most elegant solution but certainly the easiest.
Thanks a lot 🙂
as I already mentioned in another thread, our internet connection in the house is quite basic, relying on Wi-Fi and repeaters. Now I have the following thought:
In a few days, work will begin on the facade. It will receive a new plaster finish. This would be a good opportunity to install additional cables on the exterior wall. The plan is to run wiring for extra lighting on the facade and at least two cables (3 x 2.5 mm2 (3 x 0.01 inch2)) for infrared heaters, which might be installed later under a patio cover. For this, corresponding channels will be cut into the existing facade and then replastered.
Now the question is: is it possible to run Cat cables along the facade to provide internet to all floors through wired connections? We would drill a hole in the exterior wall at the spot where the “router” is located in the living room and run the cables on the outside wall to the respective rooms. I assume moisture protection needs to be considered here? What type of cables would be required? Cat 5 should definitely be sufficient, right? What about potential moisture issues? Running cables along the exterior wall is, of course, not the most elegant solution but certainly the easiest.
Thanks a lot 🙂
Schimi1791 schrieb:
Is the extra cost really worth it for the average user? Or is it more of an investment for the (distant) future?For me, it was more about emphasizing "underground cable." Ultimately, the additional cost for CAT6/7 is also negligible, so shouldn’t you invest in the future right from the start? 🙂
Schimi1791 schrieb:
Ideally, four (double) outlets should be installed. Then relevant devices could connect via cable to global communications. However, I would then need to run cables around the entire exterior of the house.
Silly (?) question: Doesn’t a switch reduce bandwidth?No.
Schimi1791 schrieb:
That bad?Yes 🙂
In my view, running cables on the outside of the house is at least the much better option.
Schimi179124 Aug 2021 11:54netuser schrieb:
My point was more about emphasizing "underground cable."
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Ultimately, the additional cost for CAT6/7 is negligible, so it makes sense to invest in the future right away? 🙂
...100m (330 feet) of CAT5 underground cable costs about 55 euros 100m (330 feet) of CAT7 underground cable costs about 80 euros
Then it will probably be CAT7. The only thing left is fiber optic for the future 🙂
But who knows what the future will bring...?
netuser schrieb:
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In my opinion, the idea of running the cables externally is definitely the better option.Ok The only question is whether the effort is really worth it. However, at this point, external installation would be the only option.
Schimi1791 schrieb:
Ok
100m CAT5 outdoor cable costs about 55 euros
100m CAT7 outdoor cable costs about 80 euros Told you so 😉
Schimi1791 schrieb:
Then it will probably be CAT7. All that's missing is fiber optic for the future 🙂
But who knows what the future will bring...? The 25-euro difference is a bargain for "future-proofing." Peeking into a crystal ball would cost you more 🙂
Ok
Schimi1791 schrieb:
The question is just whether the effort is really worth it. However, for outdoor installation, this would be the only option now. Definitely worth it in the long run. Otherwise, you'll regret it.
Also, the effort involved now is more manageable than potentially having to retrofit later.
If you want to keep the effort to a minimum, you could possibly consider outdoor-mounted access points?
Or at least pull 1-2 cables from each side of the house and internally install PoE-powered access points.
Schimi179124 Aug 2021 12:56At this point, I would
1. buy 100 meters (328 feet) of (ground) cable
2. drill a suitably sized hole from the living room to the outside for four or five CAT cables
3. make corresponding channels in the facade
4. drill holes for a CAT cable at the respective locations/rooms
5. install a switch in the living room
6. install outlets with 2x RJ45 in the respective rooms
How should the holes be sealed again (aerated concrete)? Just fill them with expanding foam? 🙂
Thinking long term now, and if fiber optic were actually installed to the house during my lifetime, how would that be handled? As far as I know, I was kindly provided with at least an empty conduit from the street to the house when the gas connection was installed.
Would CAT8 be overkill?
After all, we currently only have 60 Mbit 😀
1. buy 100 meters (328 feet) of (ground) cable
2. drill a suitably sized hole from the living room to the outside for four or five CAT cables
3. make corresponding channels in the facade
4. drill holes for a CAT cable at the respective locations/rooms
5. install a switch in the living room
6. install outlets with 2x RJ45 in the respective rooms
How should the holes be sealed again (aerated concrete)? Just fill them with expanding foam? 🙂
netuser schrieb:
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Definitely in the long term. Otherwise, you’ll regret it.
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Thinking long term now, and if fiber optic were actually installed to the house during my lifetime, how would that be handled? As far as I know, I was kindly provided with at least an empty conduit from the street to the house when the gas connection was installed.
Would CAT8 be overkill?
After all, we currently only have 60 Mbit 😀
In which room is your main utility connection or the entry point of the telecom cable? Wouldn’t it be better to make the distribution directly from there instead of from the living room?
If fiber optic or similar technology is installed later, you could distribute everything directly from that connection point and wouldn't need switches, etc., in the living room.
Regarding sealing the holes, others might be able to help you better. From my perspective, expanding foam (there are different types) and additional sealing with special adhesive tape should work.
CAT7 cable should be more than sufficient, although people said the same about PCs with 4MB RAM thirty years ago. 😉
If fiber optic or similar technology is installed later, you could distribute everything directly from that connection point and wouldn't need switches, etc., in the living room.
Regarding sealing the holes, others might be able to help you better. From my perspective, expanding foam (there are different types) and additional sealing with special adhesive tape should work.
CAT7 cable should be more than sufficient, although people said the same about PCs with 4MB RAM thirty years ago. 😉
Schimi179124 Aug 2021 13:29netuser schrieb:
In which room is your main utility connection or the entry point for the telecom cable?
...The main utility connection is in the basement. You can also go directly outside from there. However, the router is located in the living room.netuser schrieb:
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But that was thirty years ago ...In thirty years, I probably won’t care much about internet technology. By then, I’ll be more grateful if I can still get to the bathroom on my own and participate in life with a reasonably clear mind... 😎Similar topics