Hello everyone,
we are currently building, and I think most people know that this can be quite a stressful process. You sometimes have to overlook minor defects, but when it comes to the welds on our new railing, I’m not sure if these can still be considered small cosmetic flaws or if they are already major visual or even structural defects.
Here, of course, I deliberately chose one of the worse welds.
There are also paint damages that are so obvious that, in my opinion, any reputable tradesperson should have fixed them before final acceptance.
Friends with welding experience who have seen this say such work is unacceptable. Unfortunately, I’m not an expert myself, but this is the response I received from our construction supervisor via the contractor:
“The welds are flawless!
I don’t know what expertise the owner has to claim that the welds would not hold...
The two ‘paint damages’ probably occurred when lifting the 180 kg (400 lb) railing.
We will retouch these with a paint pen so they are no longer visible.
Corrosion protection is fully ensured anyway, because the entire railing beneath the paint layer is hot-dip galvanized.”
What do the welding experts here think about this? And do you know what options I have? Are there special expert inspectors to whom I should turn?
Thanks in advance!
we are currently building, and I think most people know that this can be quite a stressful process. You sometimes have to overlook minor defects, but when it comes to the welds on our new railing, I’m not sure if these can still be considered small cosmetic flaws or if they are already major visual or even structural defects.
Here, of course, I deliberately chose one of the worse welds.
There are also paint damages that are so obvious that, in my opinion, any reputable tradesperson should have fixed them before final acceptance.
Friends with welding experience who have seen this say such work is unacceptable. Unfortunately, I’m not an expert myself, but this is the response I received from our construction supervisor via the contractor:
“The welds are flawless!
I don’t know what expertise the owner has to claim that the welds would not hold...
The two ‘paint damages’ probably occurred when lifting the 180 kg (400 lb) railing.
We will retouch these with a paint pen so they are no longer visible.
Corrosion protection is fully ensured anyway, because the entire railing beneath the paint layer is hot-dip galvanized.”
What do the welding experts here think about this? And do you know what options I have? Are there special expert inspectors to whom I should turn?
Thanks in advance!
Alessandro schrieb:
By the way, you already have deep scratches in the coating on the handrail! Yes, that definitely looks more like scratches: I suspect ropes from a "block and tackle" where the railing was used as a "sheave" to pull a load to one of the balconies below. Sand, apply rust-inhibiting primer, touch up paint.
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Alessandro23 Jul 2020 16:20@11ant: How do you know what the original poster actually commissioned?
When I ordered my railing, there was never any mention of the type or finish of the welds. I just assumed they would be cleaned up properly.
At no point was this clear from the quote:
When I ordered my railing, there was never any mention of the type or finish of the welds. I just assumed they would be cleaned up properly.
At no point was this clear from the quote:
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Alessandro23 Jul 2020 16:24The contractor simply delivered very poor workmanship. This has nothing to do with the saying "you get what you pay for."
I would even argue that this sharp-edged crack poses a significant risk of injury, especially for children.
Just hiding this defect or covering it up and presenting it to the customer shows the company's lack of ethics!
Edit: Not even properly securing a railing so it can be lifted into place with a crane without damage is something the...
I would even argue that this sharp-edged crack poses a significant risk of injury, especially for children.
Just hiding this defect or covering it up and presenting it to the customer shows the company's lack of ethics!
Edit: Not even properly securing a railing so it can be lifted into place with a crane without damage is something the...
Alessandro schrieb:
@11ant: How do you know what the original poster commissioned?
When I ordered my railing, there was never any discussion about the type and finish of the welds. We only know that he apparently did not order that option – whether it was offered to him, we do not know (but this likely would not be a legally actionable "omission," more a matter of customer service that could be improved).
Alessandro schrieb:
I would almost say that this sharp-edged burr poses a high risk of injury, especially for children. It’s not a crack, but a burr – otherwise I completely agree, which is why I recommend grinding off the burr.
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Alessandro23 Jul 2020 16:30Definitely a crack! It looks like it was filled with something before the powder coating process.
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Alessandro5 Aug 2020 08:18What is the current status here?
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