ᐅ We are experiencing an electrical issue with electric vehicle charging stations in Germany.

Created on: 13 Jul 2024 10:51
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Alfa1970
Hello everyone,

My friends and I have been noticing increasing problems with using public electric vehicle (EV) charging stations. Although more stations are being installed, it seems that there isn’t enough electricity available. Several EV drivers I know, including myself, have experienced stations that exist but often do not provide power. This causes frustration and uncertainty among users.

It appears that the grid expansion has been neglected, and the infrastructure is not keeping pace with the growth of electric mobility. In my opinion, more investment is needed in stable and reliable power supply!

Just my 2 cents
DeepRed16 Jul 2024 08:58
I’m usually stuck in traffic on the way to Munich (A9) or Hamburg (A24) during the holidays. Strangely, not on a rainy Thursday morning at the beginning of November. That’s why we definitely don’t have too few motorways...

My recent holiday in Norway clearly showed me once again that, when it comes to the infrastructure for charging stations, we are still a developing country. I doubt that there is too little electricity available, as the original poster suggests.
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hanghaus2023
16 Jul 2024 09:23
DeepRed schrieb:

That we are, in terms of infrastructure for charging stations, still a developing country,

Unfortunately, not only when it comes to charging stations.
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nordanney
16 Jul 2024 09:53
It must be said that the expansion has at least picked up pace quite well.
01/01/2023: 88,313 charging points
07/01/2023: 97,495 charging points
10/01/2023: 108,266 charging points
01/01/2024: 123,449 charging points

This makes us at least number 2 in Europe in Germany, with 5 times more charging points than in Norway – but still too few for the area and population size. However, for the existing electric vehicles, this is currently a clear overcapacity.
DeepRed16 Jul 2024 10:45
One should also consider that Norway has about 5.5 million inhabitants, roughly 1 million more than the state of Saxony. If the same number of Norwegian charging stations were located in Saxony, I could probably charge my electric car every 2 meters (6.5 feet).

(I know the comparison is a bit flawed due to the difference in the size of the regions.)
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hanghaus2023
16 Jul 2024 13:34
Norway has already paved the way for electric cars, while in Germany they were still sleeping.
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MachsSelbst
16 Jul 2024 23:52
nordanney schrieb:

It has to be said that the expansion has at least gained considerable momentum.
01.01.2023: 88,313 charging points
01.07.2023: 97,495 charging points
01.10.2023: 108,266 charging points
01.01.2024: 123,449 charging points
(...)

Theory. As already pointed out, a charging point is often counted multiple times. If I offer AC, CCS, and CHAdeMO, I am listed with 3 charging points, but in reality I may only be able to supply one. If I offer CCS or CHAdeMO at the same column, it counts as 2, but in reality only one can charge at a time because the other connector is blocked. Charging points also include 22 kW (approximately 29.5 hp) AC chargers. VW only charges on AC at 11 kW (approximately 15 hp) by default.

I drive an ID.4 and currently cover about 40,000 km (25,000 miles) per year according to my usage pattern.
It works, for now. If there is no massive further expansion, we will face serious problems.
You don’t know that, and how could you? You drive 20 km (12 miles) from home to the office and back. That’s fine, of course. But please stick to topics you can judge and don’t interfere with those of us who will have to cover tens of thousands of kilometers with electric vehicles in the future, because with all due respect, you have no clue about that.