ᐅ Today was the material and finish selection appointment, smile
Created on: 9 Mar 2017 13:40
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Nordlys
Some leftover vacation days in March. We just had the selection appointment. This morning at nine. Selection appointment with the mid-sized company. Waiting for us were Mrs. L., the secretary, with a coffee; Mr. K., the master carpenter; and Mr. R., the head of masonry and roofing. Mr. K. starts. In front of him, the building plan of our house, next to him a laundry basket full of various bits and pieces. Let’s get started. With windows. He flips through the building specification. Ah, they’re from Poland. He rummages through the laundry basket and pulls out a profile sample. Veka, triple glazing, Roto fittings, Hoppe handles. The handles can also be lockable, costs extra. But then you just lose the keys, no one needs that, and if burglars want to get in, they will anyway; it just ends up broken... My wife examines the profile. Well, you can easily wipe off the dirt, can’t you? And colored, she asks? Mr. K., dryly: Yeah, it’s possible. But it’s a waste of money; it doesn’t make a difference when looking out either... So, it remains white. It goes on in that style with tiles, interior doors. When it comes to the exterior window sills, he really gets going. Yes, those are aluminum, white or nothing at all. He grins. And on the inside? Laundry basket. Granite slabs are brought to the table. Four pieces. Two disappear right away because they are polished high gloss. That’s nonsense, he says; anyway, you’ll just put flowers on them. My wife picks one from the remaining slabs. Done, moving on. The roofing expert chimes in. Hey, I need to take off some joints first, what’s the plan? He takes us outside. There lies a package from Braas with sample tiles. He picks out three. That one, that one, or that one is allowed in the building plan. We choose the dark red one. Gloss coating against moss? Doesn’t work, there are no trees here. In High German: You don’t need it because there are no trees where you are building. Okay, convinced. The roof is done. He storms off. Inside we go. Front door, Mr. K. says, now that’s a topic. So, here are the panels from Rodenberger; from K1 to K6 are included at no extra cost. The long handle costs 100 extra. The very long one 250. But that one is no good, it’s flimsy. Then take the short one for 100. We flip through. That one is good, he says. Stable, timeless, with K5 included, okay price, has some glass, lets some light into the hallway, but it’s not a department store door. Done... that’s the one. Now the interior staircase, he judges... Yeah, you take beech, it’s a hard, quiet wood. It’s coated with parquet lacquer, so it’s also durable. And as a railing, a handrail with metal rods. He grins, done. Can it be done differently? White? Hmm, he shakes his head. It’s possible. But... that costs more, you have to paint, sand, and fill more. You can see on his face what he thinks about white stairs. I give in. Beech, parquet lacquer. Matte. Then he and my wife decide where the towel radiator should go. Here or there! And how and where tiles will be installed... done. Oh yes, facade... we’ll do it like the garage, right? So, everything smooth and seamless. The plinth a little anthracite accent, everyone does that. He rummages for some color samples for the plinth from the basket. Yes, that will do.
Selection appointment with the mid-sized company. Two hours, one coffee, and not a penny extra paid.
Selection appointment with the mid-sized company. Two hours, one coffee, and not a penny extra paid.
Sascha aus H9 Mar 2017 22:55Our approach is simply different @Nordlys.
Long before talking to any companies, we looked at many houses—model homes, houses of friends and acquaintances, online sources, and others.
First, we wanted to be clear about what we actually wanted. How does our taste fit with a house, and what should it look like? Only after that did we start talking to companies.
We only discussed with our energy consultant from the general contractor that we didn’t want an air-to-water heat pump and how to manage a gas condensing boiler without solar panels—despite the KfW55 standard.
We wanted anthracite-colored roof tiles before (to match the light clinker bricks and coordinate with the windows to create an overall look we imagined), preferably glazed to prevent moss growth.
Glazing is now not allowed due to the development plan, so we checked if there was a tile with engobe in the right color. Yes—problem quickly solved.
I didn’t just look at what was included in the offer. Instead, I took my floor plan and marked outlets, LAN ports, switches, motion detectors, lights & spotlights, speaker cables, etc., planning it as we intended to use the house later.
The conversation with the electrician was: This is what we want, what does it cost?
A good example might be the stair builder.
We met with him, laid out our floor plan, and showed a picture of a staircase style we liked. The question was then: Can we build this kind of staircase, and what will it cost us?
Imagination was step one for us—that’s how our house came to be. We then only had to find the right partner to realize this project at a fair price.
Long before talking to any companies, we looked at many houses—model homes, houses of friends and acquaintances, online sources, and others.
First, we wanted to be clear about what we actually wanted. How does our taste fit with a house, and what should it look like? Only after that did we start talking to companies.
Nordlys schrieb:
But what am I supposed to discuss with the heating installer? Junkers is listed in the building description. And there is Junkers—whether they wrap the pipes in blue or gray foam doesn’t matter.
We only discussed with our energy consultant from the general contractor that we didn’t want an air-to-water heat pump and how to manage a gas condensing boiler without solar panels—despite the KfW55 standard.
Nordlys schrieb:
If the building description specifies Braas Doppel S for the roof and the local development plan says red or anthracite, then only three tile variations remain.
We wanted anthracite-colored roof tiles before (to match the light clinker bricks and coordinate with the windows to create an overall look we imagined), preferably glazed to prevent moss growth.
Glazing is now not allowed due to the development plan, so we checked if there was a tile with engobe in the right color. Yes—problem quickly solved.
Nordlys schrieb:
What else would you discuss with the electrician besides the locations of switches and sockets?
I didn’t just look at what was included in the offer. Instead, I took my floor plan and marked outlets, LAN ports, switches, motion detectors, lights & spotlights, speaker cables, etc., planning it as we intended to use the house later.
The conversation with the electrician was: This is what we want, what does it cost?
A good example might be the stair builder.
We met with him, laid out our floor plan, and showed a picture of a staircase style we liked. The question was then: Can we build this kind of staircase, and what will it cost us?
Nordlys schrieb:
Or what am I missing in terms of imagination?
Imagination was step one for us—that’s how our house came to be. We then only had to find the right partner to realize this project at a fair price.
Ok, Sascha, I understand. But for me, this no longer has anything to do with sample selection. This is the planning phase. We actually completed that last year between July and September in three lengthy meetings with the company head. That’s when the description was created. A relatively small company like this doesn’t simply impose a standard, unlike Stollhaus or Scanhaus Marlow Marlow. Those companies do set standards, but he doesn’t; instead, he develops them together with the customer, although he does have some firm boundaries. For example, he doesn’t use Poroton, among other things. If that doesn’t suit you, then this is not the right place.
However, our development of the standard was certainly, as curly mentioned earlier, more modest.
As for ypg. I think my wife and I just have a different setup than you and yours. We don’t want to live and work just for the house, and for example, we plan to spend a week in Rome this weekend, where I will lead my angel along the Via Veneto.... to hell with dimmers.
However, our development of the standard was certainly, as curly mentioned earlier, more modest.
As for ypg. I think my wife and I just have a different setup than you and yours. We don’t want to live and work just for the house, and for example, we plan to spend a week in Rome this weekend, where I will lead my angel along the Via Veneto.... to hell with dimmers.
Sascha aus H9 Mar 2017 23:34Nordlys schrieb:
Ok, Sascha, I understand. But to me, this is no longer about selecting finishes. This is planning. That's fine too, @Nordlys, I didn't mean to judge. As I said, I find it really interesting to see how everyone approaches things differently. And as long as you’re happy with it yourself, that’s what matters!
I wrote my post just to add another perspective to the discussion here.
And if that no longer counts as selecting finishes for you, that’s fine too—then I don’t have selecting finishes.
@Nordlys
We also do projects like Rome, but only starting in May, and then it will be the city of gondoliers... We don’t have a 300,000-house, no KNX system, etc., but the things I mentioned are possible for every homeowner. One chooses this, another that.
There is only one thing where I always find it necessary to be very thorough, and that is with the electrical work!
Good night
Regards, Yvonne
We also do projects like Rome, but only starting in May, and then it will be the city of gondoliers... We don’t have a 300,000-house, no KNX system, etc., but the things I mentioned are possible for every homeowner. One chooses this, another that.
There is only one thing where I always find it necessary to be very thorough, and that is with the electrical work!
Good night
Regards, Yvonne
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