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Christian NW31 Oct 2017 19:25Hello everyone,
We are building a house, and the floor plan includes only floor-to-ceiling windows, basically just patio doors. This applies to all rooms, both on the ground floor, the upper floor, and also in the living room.
They are made of uPVC, triple-glazed, and specified in the structural drawings with dimensions of 112.5 cm width by 252 cm height (44.3 inches by 99.2 inches). When you account for the floor build-up, the doors are still 112.5 cm by 251 cm (44.3 inches by 98.8 inches).
So these are really large doors that will be used constantly. Standing open for long periods, left in a tilted position, and so on...
Here are our concerns:
Such large doors must be quite heavy. Will they withstand continuous, heavy use over several decades? Or would it be better to go back to 100 cm width (39.4 inches)?
Has anyone here had experience with this type of door and long-term usage?
Manufacturers even offer widths up to 120 cm (47.2 inches), but their quality claims are often too optimistic, aren’t they?
We would really appreciate your help and experiences.
Thank you,
Christian
We are building a house, and the floor plan includes only floor-to-ceiling windows, basically just patio doors. This applies to all rooms, both on the ground floor, the upper floor, and also in the living room.
They are made of uPVC, triple-glazed, and specified in the structural drawings with dimensions of 112.5 cm width by 252 cm height (44.3 inches by 99.2 inches). When you account for the floor build-up, the doors are still 112.5 cm by 251 cm (44.3 inches by 98.8 inches).
So these are really large doors that will be used constantly. Standing open for long periods, left in a tilted position, and so on...
Here are our concerns:
Such large doors must be quite heavy. Will they withstand continuous, heavy use over several decades? Or would it be better to go back to 100 cm width (39.4 inches)?
Has anyone here had experience with this type of door and long-term usage?
Manufacturers even offer widths up to 120 cm (47.2 inches), but their quality claims are often too optimistic, aren’t they?
We would really appreciate your help and experiences.
Thank you,
Christian
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Christian NW31 Oct 2017 20:36Thank you for your responses.
On the ground floor, the floor construction is 16 cm (6.3 inches) and on the upper floor, 11 cm (4.3 inches). We like bright rooms filled with natural light, which is why we chose large patio doors.
Can anyone share their experience regarding load-bearing capacity?
Do these large windows withstand the stresses over the long term (decades)?
On the ground floor, the floor construction is 16 cm (6.3 inches) and on the upper floor, 11 cm (4.3 inches). We like bright rooms filled with natural light, which is why we chose large patio doors.
Can anyone share their experience regarding load-bearing capacity?
Do these large windows withstand the stresses over the long term (decades)?
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Knallkörper31 Oct 2017 21:31It depends solely on the windows and the operators!
Up to 120 cm (47 inches) is certainly not the maximum size, but already quite large for a single-leaf door. Practical sizes are 87.5 / 100 / 112.5 cm (34.5 / 39 / 44 inches) – with 112.5 cm (44 inches) being highly recommended. That size is still manageable, and you can carry a tray through without worrying about bumping your elbows.
The rough opening height suggests that not only the lower overlap of the floor construction but also the roller shutter box is included. Without the latter, a height of more than 240 cm (95 inches) would be a special size with significant extra effort for many manufacturers. Therefore, I assume a leaf height of 220 cm (87 inches) or less.
By the way, windows are windows by profession. They are designed, engineered, and built to handle being opened and closed – that’s what they do. The fittings and hinges take into account that window-door sizes can also be manufactured. The hinges for the tilt function do not open any wider than those of windows installed from sill height; relatively speaking in degrees relative to their height, they actually open less. Keep cool.
However,
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The rough opening height suggests that not only the lower overlap of the floor construction but also the roller shutter box is included. Without the latter, a height of more than 240 cm (95 inches) would be a special size with significant extra effort for many manufacturers. Therefore, I assume a leaf height of 220 cm (87 inches) or less.
By the way, windows are windows by profession. They are designed, engineered, and built to handle being opened and closed – that’s what they do. The fittings and hinges take into account that window-door sizes can also be manufactured. The hinges for the tilt function do not open any wider than those of windows installed from sill height; relatively speaking in degrees relative to their height, they actually open less. Keep cool.
However,
Christian NW schrieb:points out that we can also discuss entire house designs here. Excessive use of patio doors, whether they are appropriate for the location or not, indicates potential for optimization.
we are building and the floor plan only has floor-to-ceiling windows, so basically only patio doors. So all rooms, both on the ground floor, the upper floor, and also the living room.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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