ᐅ Solid wood house / partial self-construction, wall structure / differences
Created on: 13 Oct 2013 09:46
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Ralf-Bux
Good morning,
I am new here... and also new to the topic of “building a house.”
My wife and I have already read quite a bit, but we are not professionals.
We want to build a healthy single-family wooden house for our family of four.
The choice between wood and stone is no longer a question for us. It will clearly be wood.
Until now, we thought it would be a solid wood house. At first, a modern log house, but after further research, we have now settled on Holz 100 or rather “Only Wood” by Rombach.
After several discussions with general contractors, carpenters, etc., we finally consulted an architect (it would then be KfW 40 standard) who told us that we would be better off with a wood frame construction.
We are generally aware of the differences, but we are not really sure and would be very grateful for your opinions.
Especially the technical pros and cons regarding energy efficiency, building ecology, wall construction...
We are planning a 130sqm (1400 sq ft) single-family house with 4 bedrooms plus a spare room... and of course kitchen and other rooms. No basement. The plot is already owned. Heating should be provided only by a masonry heater. Hot water with an on-demand water heater + photovoltaics. (If necessary, infrared heating).
The budget is clearly set at 210,000 EUR for everything. That will be challenging, of course, but we have several craftsmen in the family and plan to do quite a bit of the work ourselves.
Thank you very much...
Ralf
I am new here... and also new to the topic of “building a house.”
My wife and I have already read quite a bit, but we are not professionals.
We want to build a healthy single-family wooden house for our family of four.
The choice between wood and stone is no longer a question for us. It will clearly be wood.
Until now, we thought it would be a solid wood house. At first, a modern log house, but after further research, we have now settled on Holz 100 or rather “Only Wood” by Rombach.
After several discussions with general contractors, carpenters, etc., we finally consulted an architect (it would then be KfW 40 standard) who told us that we would be better off with a wood frame construction.
We are generally aware of the differences, but we are not really sure and would be very grateful for your opinions.
Especially the technical pros and cons regarding energy efficiency, building ecology, wall construction...
We are planning a 130sqm (1400 sq ft) single-family house with 4 bedrooms plus a spare room... and of course kitchen and other rooms. No basement. The plot is already owned. Heating should be provided only by a masonry heater. Hot water with an on-demand water heater + photovoltaics. (If necessary, infrared heating).
The budget is clearly set at 210,000 EUR for everything. That will be challenging, of course, but we have several craftsmen in the family and plan to do quite a bit of the work ourselves.
Thank you very much...
Ralf
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ohneWissen24 Nov 2013 00:30Actually, I just wanted to clarify which eco-friendly construction methods are feasible within our budget. Since the discussion is becoming unconstructive, I’m stepping out.
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friedrich2725 Nov 2013 09:42Let me try giving you some advice once again.
Why do you always think only in terms of specific systems like Honka, Polarlife, Holz100, Rombach, and now Allsend?
Why not simply go to an independent architectural firm where the architect is preferably also a structural engineer or works with one (so that the construction and building physics aspects are solid), who understands timber construction and may also have some background in healthy building principles?
Then have them sketch your desired design and construction method.
After that, you can have nearly any timber framing company build your dream house without being limited to a particular system.
Best regards, Friedrich.
Why do you always think only in terms of specific systems like Honka, Polarlife, Holz100, Rombach, and now Allsend?
Why not simply go to an independent architectural firm where the architect is preferably also a structural engineer or works with one (so that the construction and building physics aspects are solid), who understands timber construction and may also have some background in healthy building principles?
Then have them sketch your desired design and construction method.
After that, you can have nearly any timber framing company build your dream house without being limited to a particular system.
Best regards, Friedrich.
Masipulami25 Nov 2013 09:53Ralf-Bux schrieb:
We are planning a 130qm (1400 sq ft) single-family house with 4 bedrooms plus a spare room ... clearly including the kitchen and other areas.Am I the only one who finds the desired living space way too small considering the number of rooms? Okay, maybe except if the individual bedrooms are supposed to be just about 10sqm (110 sq ft) in size.
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friedrich2725 Nov 2013 10:15Because this is only stage x.
1. Stop researching system providers.
2. Find a professional.
3. Define the construction elements with the professional according to your ecological preferences.
4. Then determine the possible sizes based on the budget.
1. Stop researching system providers.
2. Find a professional.
3. Define the construction elements with the professional according to your ecological preferences.
4. Then determine the possible sizes based on the budget.
Masipulami25 Nov 2013 10:18Yes, that’s clear. However, it seems to me that the original poster has fundamentally incorrect ideas about the required size. Anyone who wants 4 bedrooms and additional rooms simply will not manage with 130 sqm (1400 sq ft), especially not without a basement. Storage space is also needed somewhere.
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friedrich2725 Nov 2013 10:36It may be true, but the original poster is already so confused and fixated on point 1 that if they don’t overcome this issue, they won’t be able or willing to focus on anything else. If they don’t tackle steps 1 and 2, the situation will unfortunately remain the same as has been mentioned several times: no building will take place.
It is, unfortunately, a very typical attitude in our country to believe that you can handle everything without a professional (who obviously costs money). People research providers and, besides, there is always Mr. Google. Unfortunately, that approach doesn’t work. The result of the whole story is the well-known homebuilding TV shows.
And don’t worry, once step two is reached, this topic will be discussed as well.
It is, unfortunately, a very typical attitude in our country to believe that you can handle everything without a professional (who obviously costs money). People research providers and, besides, there is always Mr. Google. Unfortunately, that approach doesn’t work. The result of the whole story is the well-known homebuilding TV shows.
And don’t worry, once step two is reached, this topic will be discussed as well.
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