Hello everyone,
what is your assessment of photovoltaic and/or solar systems purely from an economic perspective?
Without going into details.
Single-family house, 199 sqm (2,145 sq ft); 2 adults / 2 children; gas condensing boiler with underfloor heating;
I know it always depends on the individual case, but I would like to hear your opinions based on the points mentioned above and from those who have experience with the additional costs of such systems.
Thanks in advance.
Best regards
what is your assessment of photovoltaic and/or solar systems purely from an economic perspective?
Without going into details.
Single-family house, 199 sqm (2,145 sq ft); 2 adults / 2 children; gas condensing boiler with underfloor heating;
I know it always depends on the individual case, but I would like to hear your opinions based on the points mentioned above and from those who have experience with the additional costs of such systems.
Thanks in advance.
Best regards
@f-pNo
Verivox shows a price of 20.15 cents per kWh (for 7000 kWh) plus an annual fee of €86 for the "grüne Welt" plan in Saarburg. (without any bonuses)
You are right that with Maingau’s tariff, which has no basic fee, you get a better deal. However, it is one of the few providers currently offering this. If they start charging a basic fee in the future, it won’t be worth it anymore.
Verivox shows a price of 20.15 cents per kWh (for 7000 kWh) plus an annual fee of €86 for the "grüne Welt" plan in Saarburg. (without any bonuses)
You are right that with Maingau’s tariff, which has no basic fee, you get a better deal. However, it is one of the few providers currently offering this. If they start charging a basic fee in the future, it won’t be worth it anymore.
Musketier schrieb:
@f-pNo
Verivox shows me a price of 20.15 cents per kWh (for 7000 kWh) plus an annual fee of 86€ for the "green world" plan. (without any bonuses)OK – I had included the bonus in my calculation.
It’s quite interesting to see how the “advertising bonus” affects the pricing.
1. Completely different prices per kWh
2. Completely different basic fees (sometimes significantly higher despite lower kWh prices in the “bonus zone”)
3. Different total prices in the first year with the same provider (of course, the tariffs have different names due to varying conditions)
In this case, the tariffs with the bonus end up slightly cheaper overall – despite higher prices per kWh.
So, when switching in the future (whether for standard or heat pump electricity), I will definitely check the second page again.
I will officially withdraw the statement "... you’re messing with the wrong person" – you never stop learning.
However, according to my example calculation, I am still slightly cheaper even with the reported €5/month for the additional meter:
0.2013 + 0.0119 (83 basic fee / 7000) = 0.2132 – 0.19 = 0.0232 * 4000 = 92.80 euros – 60 euros basic fee = 32.80 euros savings respectively.
However – and I mentioned this before – if things change sustainably, I have no problem removing the second meter and running everything through the main household electricity supply.
Anyone who takes advantage of the promotional bonus usually has to switch providers after the first year, otherwise they end up with a relatively expensive rate. Those who forget this will pay significantly more, and electricity suppliers probably expect that.
Last year, we chose a tariff without a bonus because we didn’t want to switch constantly (at least, that’s what we thought). Now, our current electricity supplier is increasing prices in December from 21.x cents to 29.65 cents per kilowatt-hour, and the basic fee is almost doubling, forcing us to switch again.
Last year, we chose a tariff without a bonus because we didn’t want to switch constantly (at least, that’s what we thought). Now, our current electricity supplier is increasing prices in December from 21.x cents to 29.65 cents per kilowatt-hour, and the basic fee is almost doubling, forcing us to switch again.
Musketier schrieb:
We chose a tariff without bonuses last year because we didn’t want to keep switching providers. (At least, that’s what we thought.) Now, our current electricity supplier is raising prices from 21.x cents to 29.65 cents starting in December, and the basic fee is almost doubling, which forces us to switch again. That is almost outrageous. They must have seriously miscalculated if they now have to impose such massive price increases.
mastermarc schrieb:
kW or kWh?I still owe you the answer: kWh, of course
By the way, I just received a letter from Westnetz GmbH requesting that we report our self-consumption.
Reason: calculation of the Renewable Energy Act surcharge on self-consumed electricity (self-generated power).
I was aware that self-consumption is subject to VAT, but now having the Renewable Energy Act surcharge applied as well seems quite excessive... The only consolation—as far as I understand—is that a reduced Renewable Energy Act surcharge is applied.
Soon, we might probably even have to pay VAT on vegetables grown in our own garden.
Reason: calculation of the Renewable Energy Act surcharge on self-consumed electricity (self-generated power).
I was aware that self-consumption is subject to VAT, but now having the Renewable Energy Act surcharge applied as well seems quite excessive... The only consolation—as far as I understand—is that a reduced Renewable Energy Act surcharge is applied.
Soon, we might probably even have to pay VAT on vegetables grown in our own garden.
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