Hello everyone,
we will soon be building a single-family house (with a general contractor) and are gradually starting to work on the planning. At the moment, we are focusing intensively on the main bathroom. Since we don’t yet have the perfect idea, we wanted to ask here in the forum if anyone can help us.
Here are the floor plans for the ground floor and the upper floor.
Ground floor:

Upper floor:

The knee wall height on the upper floor is 90 cm (35 inches), the maximum room height at the gable is 3.50 m (11.5 ft).
Here are some things we don’t particularly like about the bathroom layout on the upper floor:
- The shower is quite small for the main bathroom (80 x 80 cm (31.5 x 31.5 inches))
- The bathtub is also fairly small (I’m almost 1.90 m tall (6 ft 3 in))
- The toilet is immediately in view when entering the bathroom
- Due to the small storage closet, the bathroom feels rather small overall. Since we will have a fairly large basement, we don’t really need the storage closet.
To address these drawbacks, I have created two design proposals, both of which have certain disadvantages. In both versions, by the way, I have the door hinged on the outside because after removing the storage closet, the hallway is no longer a passage.
Version 1:

The downside here is that with the shower (100 x 100 cm (39 x 39 inches)) the space in front of the window might become tight. Possibly, the window could be moved toward the bathtub, but that might involve costs for an additional building permit / planning permission.
Version 2:

This version is basically the same as version 1, but with the double sink and shower swapped. The concern here might be that the toilet will be too far under the sloped ceiling (as I said, I’m almost 1.90 m tall (6 ft 3 in)).
What do you think of these two planning versions? Does anyone have another idea that I might not have considered yet?
Many thanks in advance for your help!
Best regards,
Seb.
we will soon be building a single-family house (with a general contractor) and are gradually starting to work on the planning. At the moment, we are focusing intensively on the main bathroom. Since we don’t yet have the perfect idea, we wanted to ask here in the forum if anyone can help us.
Here are the floor plans for the ground floor and the upper floor.
Ground floor:
Upper floor:
The knee wall height on the upper floor is 90 cm (35 inches), the maximum room height at the gable is 3.50 m (11.5 ft).
Here are some things we don’t particularly like about the bathroom layout on the upper floor:
- The shower is quite small for the main bathroom (80 x 80 cm (31.5 x 31.5 inches))
- The bathtub is also fairly small (I’m almost 1.90 m tall (6 ft 3 in))
- The toilet is immediately in view when entering the bathroom
- Due to the small storage closet, the bathroom feels rather small overall. Since we will have a fairly large basement, we don’t really need the storage closet.
To address these drawbacks, I have created two design proposals, both of which have certain disadvantages. In both versions, by the way, I have the door hinged on the outside because after removing the storage closet, the hallway is no longer a passage.
Version 1:
The downside here is that with the shower (100 x 100 cm (39 x 39 inches)) the space in front of the window might become tight. Possibly, the window could be moved toward the bathtub, but that might involve costs for an additional building permit / planning permission.
Version 2:
This version is basically the same as version 1, but with the double sink and shower swapped. The concern here might be that the toilet will be too far under the sloped ceiling (as I said, I’m almost 1.90 m tall (6 ft 3 in)).
What do you think of these two planning versions? Does anyone have another idea that I might not have considered yet?
Many thanks in advance for your help!
Best regards,
Seb.
To move one or two windows by a few centimeters, no new building permit / planning permission is needed.
How should the shower enclosure be designed? Wall or glass?
Where is the 2-meter (6.6 feet) line? That is usually crucial!!!
For your two options, enlarging the room is not necessary – you have already pushed everything up against the door 😉
Edit: I found the line [emoji15]
How should the shower enclosure be designed? Wall or glass?
Where is the 2-meter (6.6 feet) line? That is usually crucial!!!
For your two options, enlarging the room is not necessary – you have already pushed everything up against the door 😉
Edit: I found the line [emoji15]
Yes, if it is only a few centimeters, a building permit / planning permission should not be necessary.
The shower enclosure should be made of glass. This way, in option 1, there would be as much natural light as possible at the double washbasin.
If a completely different idea allowed a wall as a partition, we could live with that as well.
The shower enclosure should be made of glass. This way, in option 1, there would be as much natural light as possible at the double washbasin.
If a completely different idea allowed a wall as a partition, we could live with that as well.
I roughly sketched this out... I once had a bathroom like that, with dimensions of 2.50 x 2.20 meters (8.2 x 7.2 feet), which were common in the 1970s and 1980s. Whether a person over 190 cm (6 ft 3 in) could squeeze into a bathtub like that, I doubt it 😉 That’s probably why the trend in the 1990s was to skip the bathtub altogether, at least when remodeling.
How many people is the bathroom supposed to serve? Nowadays, I think a bathroom designed for more than three people is poor planning.
Extending the room hardly makes a difference, mainly just enough to shift the bathtub into the sloped ceiling area. What about the hallway? Maybe you could take some space from there and add it to the bathroom?
How many people is the bathroom supposed to serve? Nowadays, I think a bathroom designed for more than three people is poor planning.
Extending the room hardly makes a difference, mainly just enough to shift the bathtub into the sloped ceiling area. What about the hallway? Maybe you could take some space from there and add it to the bathroom?
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Knallkörper22 Aug 2017 15:16I would leave out the bathtub. At 6.5 m² (70 sq ft), the main bathroom was planned far too small if you want to fit everything in there, from the large shower to the double vanity. The extra space gained by removing the passageway doesn’t really add much to the bathroom due to the limited ceiling height. Your drawing also still lacks the wall framing for the built-in installations.
Thank you for your feedback.
Where else should I place it? There is definitely not enough space for a partition wall.
Did you forget to attach the sketch, or did I misunderstand you?
I had thought about that before as well. However, that space is only gained under the sloped ceiling. How would you arrange the bathroom if the hallway is sacrificed?

ypg schrieb:
For your two options, enlarging the room isn’t necessary – you have everything squeezed by the door 🙂
Where else should I place it? There is definitely not enough space for a partition wall.
ypg schrieb:
I roughly sketched it out...
Did you forget to attach the sketch, or did I misunderstand you?
ypg schrieb:
Extending it doesn’t really help, only to move the tub into the sloped ceiling area. What about the hallway? Could some of that space possibly be allocated to the bathroom?
I had thought about that before as well. However, that space is only gained under the sloped ceiling. How would you arrange the bathroom if the hallway is sacrificed?
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