Hello,
We have now reached the stage in the detailed planning where only the positioning of the ceiling spotlights needs to be finalized. Halox ceiling junction boxes 180 will be installed in the precast concrete ceilings. We are a bit uncertain about the kitchen lighting.
We are planning a 4m (13 feet) kitchen run that includes a niche 1.80m (5 feet 11 inches) wide with wall cabinets. LED spotlights are planned for the underside of the wall cabinets, which should provide sufficient lighting for the work surface. In front of the kitchen run, there is a kitchen island positioned 1.20m (4 feet) away, measuring 3.00m (10 feet) wide and approximately 1.20m (4 feet) deep.
Our idea now is to install 8 spotlights above the kitchen island (two rows of four spots, spaced 60cm (24 inches) apart). For better visualization, I have attached a picture. In your opinion, is this sufficient for the overall kitchen lighting, or should additional spotlights be planned, especially in the walkway between the kitchen run and the island?
Since the cost per spotlight—including drilling, materials, and installation—is about €250 each (installation of the junction boxes alone is around €120 gross), we naturally want to keep the number to a minimum. We are completely open regarding the choice of recessed spotlights (beam angle, etc.)...
We have now reached the stage in the detailed planning where only the positioning of the ceiling spotlights needs to be finalized. Halox ceiling junction boxes 180 will be installed in the precast concrete ceilings. We are a bit uncertain about the kitchen lighting.
We are planning a 4m (13 feet) kitchen run that includes a niche 1.80m (5 feet 11 inches) wide with wall cabinets. LED spotlights are planned for the underside of the wall cabinets, which should provide sufficient lighting for the work surface. In front of the kitchen run, there is a kitchen island positioned 1.20m (4 feet) away, measuring 3.00m (10 feet) wide and approximately 1.20m (4 feet) deep.
Our idea now is to install 8 spotlights above the kitchen island (two rows of four spots, spaced 60cm (24 inches) apart). For better visualization, I have attached a picture. In your opinion, is this sufficient for the overall kitchen lighting, or should additional spotlights be planned, especially in the walkway between the kitchen run and the island?
Since the cost per spotlight—including drilling, materials, and installation—is about €250 each (installation of the junction boxes alone is around €120 gross), we naturally want to keep the number to a minimum. We are completely open regarding the choice of recessed spotlights (beam angle, etc.)...
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hampshire7 Jun 2021 14:45Criteria:
- How many recessed lights would you find visually appealing on the ceiling, regardless of the emitted light?
- What function should the lights serve? (Task lighting for work – general task lighting for the entire area – ambient lighting, etc.)
- This number then determines the light bulbs needed. (Beam angle, luminous flux, color temperature → brightness on the surface)
- For good color rendering, always choose a high CRI; or if you want colors to appear more flattering, choose lights with a spectrum optimized for aesthetic food color rendering (available for commercial use).
- To work shadow-free in comfortable task lighting, for example, three well-chosen lights are sufficient, while six poorly chosen ones are not.
- Good task lighting is rarely also good ambient lighting – consider both separately, but do not try to combine them in one fixture.
- Avoid bulbs with donut holes (unevenly bright rings in the beam).
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Bertram1007 Jun 2021 18:40(Too) many recessed spotlights in a house can quickly look too "functional." Especially when there are a lot of them. I have surface-mounted spotlights and already find that a bit excessive. Maybe regular lamps or track lighting would work just as well? It would probably be more cost-effective too.
driver55 schrieb:
I would rather install two panels at 200€ each...With our electrician, you would only get the mounting cans for that price. Without wiring, of course.Martial.white schrieb:
Halox100 would be enough (usually costs about half).For us, it's about ten less, but you have much more limited options when choosing the spotlights.In our kitchen, we have planned only four spotlights plus an extractor hood. That should provide sufficiently bright lighting throughout. It really depends on the luminous flux and beam angle of the spotlights. If you need eight just for the island, there won’t really be anything left for the rest of the area.
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Deliverer8 Jun 2021 15:10Spotlights in kitchens are always installed above the edges of the work surfaces that need to be illuminated (the area where your belly is close to ;-). Placing them further forward causes glare, while positioning them further back creates shadows.
K1300S schrieb:
For that, our electrician would only give you the recessed lighting housings. Of course, without any wiring. Do it yourself (builder)! 😉
driver55 schrieb:
The homeowner does it themselves!Blessed are those who have the time for it, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to them. 😉