ᐅ Is a Satellite System Still Necessary for New Builds, or Is IPTV Sufficient?

Created on: 27 Feb 2019 14:48
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commanderchen
Hello everyone,

Please forgive me if I haven’t searched through hundreds of pages. My basic question is whether you still consider a satellite dish necessary or if you would just skip it altogether. About our profile: When we watch TV, it’s exclusively public broadcasting channels and no private channels. However, mostly we watch on-demand content like Netflix, Amazon Prime, and so on. In this context, we’re really starting to doubt whether we can save ourselves the 850 EUR gross. What do you think? Should we just stream the public broadcasting channels via Apple TV, or is it still better to have a satellite dish installed?

Thanks & good luck, Commanderchen
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wurmwichtel
5 Mar 2019 13:09
commanderchen schrieb:
Quick update: we are currently 99% inclined not to install a satellite system. The final decision will be made in the next few days, then I will share the result.

No high-frequency system (whether satellite or terrestrial) can guarantee perfect reception.
It is easy to feed DVB-T, as well as FM and DAB+ radio, into the satellite system.
In our house, the walls cause such high attenuation that Wi-Fi connections simply drop, and DAB+ reception is poor.
Wired connections don’t have these problems if the antennas are installed outdoors.
There are also converters available from DVB-S2 to IP, but they are currently much more expensive than a good LNB.

In my opinion, the solution is much simpler:
Next to the multiswitch with two Unicable and several legacy outputs in the antenna cabinet, run one or two Cat6A cables, and for extra convenience, also install a fiber optic strand to possibly add a suitable server later.
Streaming content has delays easily up to 30 seconds — which is frustrating if your neighbor cheers during the next World Cup and you have to wait forever to find out why.
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commanderchen
5 Mar 2019 13:34
wurmwichtel schrieb:

In my opinion, the solution is much simpler:
Next to the multiswitch with two Unicable outputs and several legacy outputs inside the antenna distribution box, install one or two Cat6A cables, and if you want to be extra generous, also lay a fiber optic cable to potentially upgrade with a suitable server later on.
Streamed content can have delays of around 30 seconds – no thanks if your neighbor cheers during the next World Cup and you have to wait forever to find out why.

What did you say?! Please pick me up at the station, I don’t quite understand...
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Bookstar
5 Mar 2019 13:51
I would also jump on the bandwagon.
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wurmwichtel
5 Mar 2019 14:14
Unicable is a standard that allows access to all transponders from one or multiple satellites over a single coaxial cable.
The receiver "instructs" the Unicable converter which transponder should be remodulated to a single frequency. Normally, about a quarter of the satellite’s total output is fed through the coaxial cable, as it is not technically practical to transmit the entire spectrum of over 3 GHz through one cable. With Unicable, only a very small portion is used, which creates more space on the cable for other signals.
There is also a newer standard called JESS.
This solution is cost-effective for multi-dwelling buildings and when using so-called twin receivers with only one cable available. With this setup, you can watch one program on one receiver while the other records.

Google: Standard EN50494
Google: Standard EN50607

I only recently stumbled upon this because the cable installer from our general contractor messed up, and I didn’t want to give up the advantages of our twin receivers. Otherwise, I would never have discovered films like "God Bless America," "Iron Sky," or "Oblivion."

Streaming hasn’t convinced me yet, especially since I dislike the filter bubble that inevitably builds up around it. On one hand, the picture quality is often poor, and on the other, data streams sometimes drop out.
That’s really frustrating when you want to watch something exciting.
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hanse987
6 Mar 2019 10:55
wurmwichtel schrieb:

You can easily feed DVB-T into the satellite system, as well as FM and DAB+, meaning radio broadcasts.
In our house, the walls cause such high attenuation that Wi-Fi connections simply drop, and DAB+ reception is poor.

I am generally in favor of satellite systems, but nowadays there is really no need to feed FM and DAB+ into them. There are many radio stations available via satellite with good quality, and on top of that, internet radio is an option. If your Wi-Fi is too weak for that, it is due to poor setup on your part. For me, FM and DAB+ are only still relevant in mobile situations, like in a car.
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Nordlys
6 Mar 2019 11:05
You don’t have a portable radio with a telescopic antenna in your kitchen anymore? Like a Grundig Musikboy?