ᐅ Is a Satellite System Still Necessary for New Builds, or Is IPTV Sufficient?
Created on: 27 Feb 2019 14:48
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commanderchen
Hello everyone,
Please forgive me if I haven’t searched through hundreds of pages. My basic question is whether you still consider a satellite dish necessary or if you would just skip it altogether. About our profile: When we watch TV, it’s exclusively public broadcasting channels and no private channels. However, mostly we watch on-demand content like Netflix, Amazon Prime, and so on. In this context, we’re really starting to doubt whether we can save ourselves the 850 EUR gross. What do you think? Should we just stream the public broadcasting channels via Apple TV, or is it still better to have a satellite dish installed?
Thanks & good luck, Commanderchen
Please forgive me if I haven’t searched through hundreds of pages. My basic question is whether you still consider a satellite dish necessary or if you would just skip it altogether. About our profile: When we watch TV, it’s exclusively public broadcasting channels and no private channels. However, mostly we watch on-demand content like Netflix, Amazon Prime, and so on. In this context, we’re really starting to doubt whether we can save ourselves the 850 EUR gross. What do you think? Should we just stream the public broadcasting channels via Apple TV, or is it still better to have a satellite dish installed?
Thanks & good luck, Commanderchen
@danixf
Well, okay, if I can get a rafter bracket on Amazon for around 50€ and then charge about 220€ net for it, the installation can't be that expensive, I think.
Yes, the plan is to fully cover the entire roof (which would then be a 9.9 system).
But to install everything later if needed, as I already mentioned, an access window would be necessary to mount the dish on the mast, especially if it is close to the ridge, so quite high up. In other words, simply leaning a ladder won’t really be feasible. That’s why the installation on the gable side on a visible wooden beam seems the easiest and most straightforward option to me.
Well, okay, if I can get a rafter bracket on Amazon for around 50€ and then charge about 220€ net for it, the installation can't be that expensive, I think.
Yes, the plan is to fully cover the entire roof (which would then be a 9.9 system).
But to install everything later if needed, as I already mentioned, an access window would be necessary to mount the dish on the mast, especially if it is close to the ridge, so quite high up. In other words, simply leaning a ladder won’t really be feasible. That’s why the installation on the gable side on a visible wooden beam seems the easiest and most straightforward option to me.
Andre77 schrieb:
@danixf
Well, alright, if I can get a rafter bracket for around €50 (about $55) on Amazon, then charging a net price of €220 (about $240) seems a bit much to me. The installation really can’t be that expensive, I think.
Yes, the plan is to cover the entire roof (which would be a 9.9 kW system).
But in order to install everything later if needed, you would - as mentioned before - still need an access window to mount the dish on the mast, especially if it’s near the ridge, so quite high up. So simply leaning a ladder won’t be an option. That’s why mounting it on the gable side on a visible wooden beam seemed easiest and most straightforward to me.Why do you need an access window? Just take a ladder and remove the roof tiles. Then you can easily climb up to the cables. I just did that myself recently. It takes about 4–5 hours if you’re inexperienced. As for the price... regular electrical suppliers simply can’t compete with online prices, so comparing prices isn’t really fair. So assume about €100 (about $110) for the parts, and then it will still take a good hour to do the installation properly. There should also be some profit margin left.
Um, a ladder, and it has to reach up to the ridge. That is—if—the satellite dish has to face north. Today I stood on the scaffolding to look at the ceiling from above. I was glad to have solid ground under my feet again, and I wasn’t high up. Me with a ladder up to the ridge... uh... no.
Depending on the eaves at the gable end, either attach it there or simply go through the wall with a conduit for the cable. Then insulate around the conduit with the external wall insulation system (EWIS), and that’s it. Honestly, I don’t want to make it more complicated than necessary.
Depending on the eaves at the gable end, either attach it there or simply go through the wall with a conduit for the cable. Then insulate around the conduit with the external wall insulation system (EWIS), and that’s it. Honestly, I don’t want to make it more complicated than necessary.
Andre77 schrieb:
Um, a ladder, and it needs to reach the ridge. If – the dish has to face north. I stood on the scaffolding today to look at the ceiling from above. Was glad to have solid ground under my feet again, and I wasn’t even that high up. Me with a ladder reaching the ridge… um… no.
Depending on the roof edge at the gable side, either there or just onto the masonry with a conduit through the wall. Then put the EIFS (external insulation finishing system) around the conduit, and that’s it. To be honest, I don’t want to do anything too complicated there. I think you don’t quite understand me, or I’m mistaken. Your ladder doesn’t need to reach the ridge but only the gutter. From there, you or a company through MyHammer can cover the roof and install the dish.
Nevertheless, the other option is definitely smarter if you actually plan to equip the entire south side with panels.
Regarding costs… The satellite system has relatively little or almost nothing to do with the actual electrical work. So you can also hire an antenna installation company to do it. That can save you a bit of money as well… Our neighbors did it like that and ended up around 300€ cheaper than if they had used the electrician provided by the builder.
Or you can skip all the SAT stuff and invest the money in more LAN sockets instead!
After two months, I haven’t noticed anything negative; everything runs smoothly in 4K.
At first, I was worried that 100 Mbit/s wouldn’t be enough, but so far, we’re managing well!
It would also be interesting to know if a cheaper provider can match Telekom’s performance, because if that goes wrong, you’re stuck without fun for two years!
After two months, I haven’t noticed anything negative; everything runs smoothly in 4K.
At first, I was worried that 100 Mbit/s wouldn’t be enough, but so far, we’re managing well!
It would also be interesting to know if a cheaper provider can match Telekom’s performance, because if that goes wrong, you’re stuck without fun for two years!
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