ᐅ Is it possible to have a gas boiler without a solar system?
Created on: 11 Jan 2016 15:24
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futtinger
Hello,
we are currently building a solid masonry house with 36.5 Poroton blocks, a gas boiler, no external insulation, and no ventilation system.
Therefore, we do not meet any KfW requirements. The building permit / planning permission includes a solar panel system. Since I am not a fan of solar panels and would like to save around €5000, I am trying to avoid installing it. Is there a way around this? To comply with the energy saving ordinance, the system is basically required. However, my architect said that no one actually checks whether the system is installed or not. We would prepare all the necessary wiring, and if someone really notices the absence of the system, it could still be installed at short notice. Is there any problem with this approach?
I have already spoken with other "experts." Some said there would be no problem, others warned of a potential fine... the building authority would not check, but the chimney sweep might... then I asked the chimney sweep, and he said he wouldn’t check either...
So I am not really sure where I stand. Of course, I don’t want to skip the system and then, in 10 years, have to pay a hefty fine because it was checked somewhere.
Now I could really tear myself and my architect apart.
we are currently building a solid masonry house with 36.5 Poroton blocks, a gas boiler, no external insulation, and no ventilation system.
Therefore, we do not meet any KfW requirements. The building permit / planning permission includes a solar panel system. Since I am not a fan of solar panels and would like to save around €5000, I am trying to avoid installing it. Is there a way around this? To comply with the energy saving ordinance, the system is basically required. However, my architect said that no one actually checks whether the system is installed or not. We would prepare all the necessary wiring, and if someone really notices the absence of the system, it could still be installed at short notice. Is there any problem with this approach?
I have already spoken with other "experts." Some said there would be no problem, others warned of a potential fine... the building authority would not check, but the chimney sweep might... then I asked the chimney sweep, and he said he wouldn’t check either...
So I am not really sure where I stand. Of course, I don’t want to skip the system and then, in 10 years, have to pay a hefty fine because it was checked somewhere.
Now I could really tear myself and my architect apart.
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futtinger13 Jan 2016 15:27We have gas available in our street, so we didn't consider any other options.
And yes, financial aspects certainly play a role. An additional investment of 3,000 to 5,000 € for a solar system that will never pay off needs to be carefully questioned. Nature is all well and good, but my own interests come first here.
And yes, financial aspects certainly play a role. An additional investment of 3,000 to 5,000 € for a solar system that will never pay off needs to be carefully questioned. Nature is all well and good, but my own interests come first here.
futtinger schrieb:
And yes, financial considerations definitely play a role. An additional investment of 3,000–5,000 € (3,300–5,500 USD) for the solar system, which will never pay off, needs to be questioned very carefully. Nature is all well and good, but here my own interest comes first.No. Just because you want a lot of money for your own benefit doesn’t make robbing a bank legal.
There are laws, rules, guidelines, and regulations that you have to obey as well.
It’s true that some of these might not seem reasonable to everyone.
Personally, I find this thread borderline because it discusses deliberately ignoring laws or regulations.
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Bauexperte13 Jan 2016 19:28Musketier schrieb:
Personally, I find this thread already quite borderline, as it discusses the deliberate disregard of laws and regulations. Yep – and it’s more than worth considering to close it ... if no change in mindset becomes apparent.
Regards, Bauexperte
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futtinger13 Jan 2016 21:17Let’s stay realistic here… I just want to gather information about what options or grey areas exist. From the start, I’ve said everything will be done properly. If any fines or penalties are likely, of course I’ll get the necessary building permits / planning permission right away. I came to this conclusion after consulting with three architects and two chimney specialists. Apparently, there is no clear regulation on this whole topic.
There might also be other (more affordable) ways to comply with the energy saving regulations. You’ve already mentioned the 15% rule.
I think that’s what a forum is for – to exchange ideas on uncertain topics like this.
There might also be other (more affordable) ways to comply with the energy saving regulations. You’ve already mentioned the 15% rule.
I think that’s what a forum is for – to exchange ideas on uncertain topics like this.
You, like every other homeowner, must comply with the energy saving regulation, regardless of how you meet its requirements—whether through thermal insulation, photovoltaic panels, additional insulation, controlled residential ventilation, heat pumps, etc. You are welcome to discuss these options in the forum.
The forum is not intended for discussing any ways to bypass the law. Please adhere to these rules.
The forum is not intended for discussing any ways to bypass the law. Please adhere to these rules.
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