ᐅ Energy Saving Regulation Certificate vs. Energy Saving Regulation Certificate + KfW 70 Certificate

Created on: 1 Jul 2015 12:41
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jx7
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jx7
1 Jul 2015 12:41
Hello everyone!

When an energy consultant performs an energy performance calculation for a new build, is preparing the KfW 70 certificate still considered additional work that justifies extra costs?

Does anyone have cost estimates for energy consultant fees for a single-family house with 146 m² (1572 ft²) of living space plus 73 m² (785 ft²) of basement, once for just the energy performance calculation and once for the energy performance calculation plus the KfW 70 certificate?

The house has the following features:
- 17.5 cm (7 inches) calcium silicate brick, 20 cm (8 inches) insulation
- Geothermal system (brine-water heat pump with deep drilling, with a calculated annual performance factor of at least 4.5)
- Central controlled residential ventilation with heat recovery
- South-facing orientation

It should definitely meet the KfW 70 standard.

Best regards

jx7
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Sebastian79
1 Jul 2015 12:53
20 cm (8 inches) insulation? Why so much? Have you calculated what the additional insulation really gains you? We have the same setup with 14 cm (5.5 inches) insulation and achieve a KFW56 rating...

Of course, there are more factors involved, but roughly speaking, this setup would easily reach KFW70. I would always consider the extra cost of the additional insulation and what you would save annually.

We paid 500 euros plus tax for the energy saving regulation and KFW calculation.
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jx7
1 Jul 2015 12:57
Thanks, Lexmaul. Do you know how much of the 500 € plus VAT was for the energy saving regulation and how much was for the KfW program? Do you also have geothermal energy and controlled residential ventilation with heat recovery?
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Sebastian79
1 Jul 2015 13:01
150 euros was for the KfW loan - and yes, we have both of them as well.
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jx7
7 Jul 2015 16:37
We had to pay an additional 500 € surcharge, but this included not only the preparation of the KfW calculation before construction, but also the necessary construction supervision and any work required during the building process.
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jx7
8 Jul 2015 11:31
Our construction method (17.5 cm (7 inches) calcium silicate brick, 20 cm (8 inches) insulation, 10 cm (4 inches) insulation under the floor slab, triple glazing, geothermal energy/deep borehole, controlled ventilation system with heat recovery, 146 m² (1570 ft²) living space plus basement) has resulted in the following values:

Annual primary energy demand
Q_p = 34.5 kWh/(m²·a) => 54% of the reference building

Heat transmission loss
H'_t = 0.305 W/(m²·K) => 79% of the reference building

For KfW-70 certification, Q_p must be less than 70% of the reference building and H'_t less than 85%, so these requirements are met.

For KfW-55 certification, Q_p must be less than 55% and H'_t less than 70% of the reference building, so these requirements are not met.

For various reasons, it does not bother us that we do not meet KfW-55 standards:

1) Our bank, Ing-Diba, only provides KfW-70 loans anyway.

2) KfW-55 requires higher energy consultant fees due to stricter verification.

3) We have little incentive to invest in further costly building measures to reach KfW-55 because with geothermal energy, we can produce heat very economically, and the savings potential from additional insulation, better windows, etc., does not seem significant to us.