ᐅ Is a 3,000 square meter (approximately 32,000 square foot) plot of land practical?

Created on: 20 Jul 2016 16:20
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Vogelmama
Hello,

I’m new here and want to start right away with a question. I hope I posted it in the right subforum.

My husband and I are still at the very beginning of our “building a house” project. We have been searching for a plot of land for some time but haven’t found the right one yet.

Now there is a 3,000 m² (0.7 acres) plot for sale. It has no zoning plan and is relatively affordable.

While my husband only sees the large amount of work that must be involved, I see it a bit differently. I understand his concerns, but at the same time, I imagine it would be wonderful to have so much space: a vegetable garden, greenhouse, fruit trees, maybe some sheep and chickens, a pond, and so on.

Of course, all of this involves a lot of work and can only be accomplished if both of us are fully committed. But aside from that, I would like to know if anyone has experience with such a large plot.

How did you make use of the space?
If you grow a lot of fruits and vegetables, can you mostly live off them?
How many years did it take until your garden looked the way you imagined it?
Please share a bit about your experiences and whether you would do it the same way again.

Thank you very much in advance!

Vogelmama
Musketier20 Jul 2016 17:41
You must not be a perfectionist. The chicken area will always look barren. A meadow for sheep is definitely not a golf course, but it also doesn’t need to be mowed every week or watered during the summer. You won’t be able to keep 3000m² (32,300 sq ft) in perfect condition all the time.
It wouldn’t be for me.
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Bauexperte
20 Jul 2016 17:54
Hello,
Vogelmama schrieb:

There is now a 3,000 sqm (32,292 sq ft) plot of land for sale. Without a building permit/planning permission and relatively inexpensive.

What exactly does it mean that there is no building permit/planning permission? Is it outside the designated development area?
Vogelmama schrieb:

While my husband only sees all the work that will surely come with it, I see it a bit differently. I can understand his concerns, but at the same time, I imagine it would be great to have so much space: vegetable garden, greenhouse, fruit trees, maybe some sheep and chickens, a pond, and so on.

Of course, all of that is a lot of work and only manageable if both of us are fully on board. But aside from that, I would like to know if anyone has experience with such a large property.

I’ll just tell you a bit about our little garden...

Behind our house, there is about 400 sqm (4,305 sq ft) of land; originally laid out purely as a utility garden, I have gradually transformed it into a “recreation garden.” That means some bushes, a few evergreens/firs, flowers, and of course the obligatory herb section and lawn (not English-style). I no longer start digging the soil and planting early potatoes before Easter, but it still feels like almost as much work—just a different kind—and I save myself the time-consuming harvesting and preserving.

As one of the previous posters already mentioned—the land starts reclaiming itself if you don’t keep on top of it. For me, that means about two hours per week weeding plus mowing the lawn once or twice, depending on what the weather decides to do. If I skip a week, it pays off badly; weeds are much tougher than you might think 🙁 On top of that, shrubs and plants need care—problems often start with the roses or blackberries. By the way, you should think carefully before planting blackberries in your garden; I personally find them almost worse than ivy. Plus, they really fight back when I try to prune them.

As if that’s not enough, in autumn there is a lot of fallen leaves and needles. I usually rake those onto the beds because hedgehogs and insects also need to hibernate. Still, it’s work to prepare the garden for winter as well. That means cutting back shrubs, protecting some plants, or digging others out.

And what’s all this for? So we can sit in the garden during our limited free time, the granddaughters can splash around, and we can have barbecues—though the latter is definitely my husband’s job 😀

I have just described my gardening work in summary—and only for 400 sqm (4,305 sq ft). You want to get a small forest with an adjacent meadow, vegetable garden, and livestock. Therefore, I don’t think you’ll manage upkeep with just five days a week; to say nothing of the costs involved in maintaining such a property. A natural swimming pond—sensible at that size—also costs a lot of money. Garden tools, fertilizers, and so on must be paid for and maintained regularly, which means regular servicing.

Think it over carefully, because if your husband is already hesitant, all the work will fall to you 😉

Regards, Bauexperte
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toxicmolotof
20 Jul 2016 18:00
The first thing that comes to mind regarding the main question is Radio Yerevan.

Basically, yes, but...

...almost everything has already been said. But only almost.

And now comes the madness—and no, it’s not April 1st!

Depending on the circumstances, you might be compulsorily insured under the agricultural accident insurance association because your garden is larger than 0.25 hectares (0.6 acres).

Linking is not allowed, but try googling "accident insurance bg large garden"...

One of the first results deals with this issue.
Umbau-Susi20 Jul 2016 18:09
We have a 600 sqm (6,458 sq ft) plot with a house on it. The garden was designed by someone with “garden know-how.” There is also a 6 × 3 m (20 × 10 ft) greenhouse.

Both of us work more than 10 hours a day. In everyday life, it’s not possible to take care of everything the way we would like. It’s always a compromise between leaving things unattended during busy work periods and then spending a week on garden activities during vacation.

The 600 sqm (6,458 sq ft) is actually a bit too much, but we’ve already preserved 15 jars of pickles, and there will be more to come. That’s how I would describe it for myself.

However, it can definitely cause significant relationship stress if both people aren’t fully on board and especially if they don’t want the same things.

Therefore, I believe it’s very important to think things through carefully together.
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larina
20 Jul 2016 18:19
We have a plot of similar size—2500 sqm (about 0.62 acres). The purchase price was very low (<20€/sqm), it’s serviced land without a formal development plan, and only the front half is designated as a building plot (the plot is 25 m (82 feet) wide and approximately 98 m (322 feet) long), but that is more than enough.

We have now leveled the garden completely with an excavator, and a lawn tractor will be purchased at some point. Alternatively, we have farmer friends who mow the area for us until then.
We haven’t decided exactly what to do with the garden yet. Part of it will be a children’s playground (trampoline, pool, etc.), and part will be planted with trees. I would like to have one or two raised garden beds. A large barbecue area is planned eventually.

At first, we were skeptical—but now we are very happy with this little piece of land overlooking open fields and the forest.
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Bieber0815
20 Jul 2016 18:38
What does the plot look like today? What are the adjacent areas like?

(We have 1500 m² (16,000 sq ft) and a lot of work ahead of us... I also like that there is a certain distance from the neighbor.)