ᐅ Is a 3,000 square meter (approximately 32,000 square foot) plot of land practical?
Created on: 20 Jul 2016 16:20
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Vogelmama
Hello,
I’m new here and want to start right away with a question. I hope I posted it in the right subforum.
My husband and I are still at the very beginning of our “building a house” project. We have been searching for a plot of land for some time but haven’t found the right one yet.
Now there is a 3,000 m² (0.7 acres) plot for sale. It has no zoning plan and is relatively affordable.
While my husband only sees the large amount of work that must be involved, I see it a bit differently. I understand his concerns, but at the same time, I imagine it would be wonderful to have so much space: a vegetable garden, greenhouse, fruit trees, maybe some sheep and chickens, a pond, and so on.
Of course, all of this involves a lot of work and can only be accomplished if both of us are fully committed. But aside from that, I would like to know if anyone has experience with such a large plot.
How did you make use of the space?
If you grow a lot of fruits and vegetables, can you mostly live off them?
How many years did it take until your garden looked the way you imagined it?
Please share a bit about your experiences and whether you would do it the same way again.
Thank you very much in advance!
Vogelmama
I’m new here and want to start right away with a question. I hope I posted it in the right subforum.
My husband and I are still at the very beginning of our “building a house” project. We have been searching for a plot of land for some time but haven’t found the right one yet.
Now there is a 3,000 m² (0.7 acres) plot for sale. It has no zoning plan and is relatively affordable.
While my husband only sees the large amount of work that must be involved, I see it a bit differently. I understand his concerns, but at the same time, I imagine it would be wonderful to have so much space: a vegetable garden, greenhouse, fruit trees, maybe some sheep and chickens, a pond, and so on.
Of course, all of this involves a lot of work and can only be accomplished if both of us are fully committed. But aside from that, I would like to know if anyone has experience with such a large plot.
How did you make use of the space?
If you grow a lot of fruits and vegetables, can you mostly live off them?
How many years did it take until your garden looked the way you imagined it?
Please share a bit about your experiences and whether you would do it the same way again.
Thank you very much in advance!
Vogelmama
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nasenmann21 Jul 2016 08:39The important thing is to really want to do it. Then even 3000 m² (32,300 sq ft) can be enjoyable.
You wouldn’t have to go all in with everything mentioned. If you start with just 2000 m² (21,500 sq ft) of meadow that you mow once or twice a month, and cultivate the rest as you wish, you’ll quickly see how far you want to take it.
But if one of two people has doubts, it won’t work out.
For anyone who sees gardening as just work, it won’t be enjoyable from the start.
I actually like mowing the lawn—I find it quite relaxing. Weeding the beds and dealing with everything around them is no problem for me either.
Not having time is basically not a valid excuse. It’s just that you would rather spend your time on other things.
So: you either want to do it or you don’t.
PS: Even though this year has sometimes been frustrating with only a few dry and warm hours available for garden “work” and no real chance to enjoy that time (dry, warm weather), it still comes down to wanting to do it.
You wouldn’t have to go all in with everything mentioned. If you start with just 2000 m² (21,500 sq ft) of meadow that you mow once or twice a month, and cultivate the rest as you wish, you’ll quickly see how far you want to take it.
But if one of two people has doubts, it won’t work out.
For anyone who sees gardening as just work, it won’t be enjoyable from the start.
I actually like mowing the lawn—I find it quite relaxing. Weeding the beds and dealing with everything around them is no problem for me either.
Not having time is basically not a valid excuse. It’s just that you would rather spend your time on other things.
So: you either want to do it or you don’t.
PS: Even though this year has sometimes been frustrating with only a few dry and warm hours available for garden “work” and no real chance to enjoy that time (dry, warm weather), it still comes down to wanting to do it.
Hello,
in my opinion, it always depends on the plot and good zoning.
If you can zone the plot properly and maybe use the rear 2000m² (21528 sq ft) differently due to the surroundings, that’s no problem.
For example: During the construction phase, we simply allowed the farmer who leased the meadow behind our property to use the rear part of our plot. He mowed that area twice a year and took the hay. I didn’t have to do any work for it.
It felt like our plot ended at our earth mounds, and he mowed behind that.
It’s similar if there is a forest behind the plot and there might already be some trees on the back part. Then I would also zone this area clearly (for example, with a fence or a wall) and leave the rest to grow into the forest.
If the plot is, of course, in the middle of the city, I would divide it and sell part of it.
We have just under 1400m² (15070 sq ft) and I am absolutely happy with that. We have some space to the neighbors and can walk all around our house.
But even this plot we partially zoned. Behind our terrace there is some lawn area and then a wall. Behind that starts our meadow (not lawn), which can grow a bit taller sometimes and where a few trees will also eventually grow. You can also take a look at that here: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/pflaster-und-platten-von-rinn.14699/page-6#post-144397
in my opinion, it always depends on the plot and good zoning.
If you can zone the plot properly and maybe use the rear 2000m² (21528 sq ft) differently due to the surroundings, that’s no problem.
For example: During the construction phase, we simply allowed the farmer who leased the meadow behind our property to use the rear part of our plot. He mowed that area twice a year and took the hay. I didn’t have to do any work for it.
It felt like our plot ended at our earth mounds, and he mowed behind that.
It’s similar if there is a forest behind the plot and there might already be some trees on the back part. Then I would also zone this area clearly (for example, with a fence or a wall) and leave the rest to grow into the forest.
If the plot is, of course, in the middle of the city, I would divide it and sell part of it.
We have just under 1400m² (15070 sq ft) and I am absolutely happy with that. We have some space to the neighbors and can walk all around our house.
But even this plot we partially zoned. Behind our terrace there is some lawn area and then a wall. Behind that starts our meadow (not lawn), which can grow a bit taller sometimes and where a few trees will also eventually grow. You can also take a look at that here: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/pflaster-und-platten-von-rinn.14699/page-6#post-144397
RobsonMKK schrieb:
Why not divide the plot? Depending on how it’s shaped, you could create 3-4 parcels out of it. Each around 750 or 1000 square meters (8,070 or 10,760 square feet). Still plenty of space and it would save some moneyNot every plot is suitable for subdivision. Additionally, some people prefer having some distance rather than the next neighbor right on top of them.
I think it simply depends on how you design the garden. Although we have only about half the size of the plot, it only takes around 25 minutes to mow the lawn each week. We trim the hedges once a year, occasionally remove some weeds, and spend 5-10 minutes watering during dry periods. So it’s not a big deal. For your area with a lot of lawn, buy a good ride-on mower, and you can manage the space in about half an hour. I also like having some distance from the neighbors.
MarcWen schrieb:
Not every plot of land is suitable for subdivision.That’s why I wrote (with a small typo) that it depends on how it’s divided. And with 1000 sqm (10,764 sq ft), you don’t have the neighbor right on top of you.
With a property of that size, you really shouldn’t overlook the maintenance costs. Besides potential insurance issues, there are expenses for irrigation, fertilization, general plant care, a fence (which also needs upkeep), and so on. The savings on the price per square meter can be eaten up faster than you think. Even if you use rainwater, it only takes a hot summer. Or the opposite—a summer like this one that might result in zero yield and cause your plants to rot.
Bauexperte schrieb:
That’s wishful thinking, Marcus; just wait until you hear the amounts mentioned for maintaining your property. Especially how many hours are needed to keep it well maintained.
BauexperteI hope you can give my wife a few good tips. 😉
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