ᐅ House construction in the Ruhr region on an existing plot of land
Created on: 20 Feb 2021 10:30
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Nadi_Mai
Hello everyone,
We are new to the topic of house building. So far, we have only been interested in existing properties – but after years of searching, nothing suitable has come up, and prices have now become so high that we are considering building a new house.
The situation is as follows:
My parents own an end-terrace house situated on a plot of about 500 sqm (5400 sq ft) (number 51 in the picture). When they bought the house, the undeveloped plot next door was included. We have since spoken with the city and found out that we could build a house on the adjacent plot (which belongs to them, together totaling 1030 sqm (11,100 sq ft), marked with the red X). The development plan apparently contains all the key information. Regarding permits (building permit / planning permission), we shouldn’t need to worry much because all requirements seem to be clearly regulated here.
We are now considering an extension and are looking for house building companies that could advise us, so we can get an initial overview of what the costs might be. We wouldn’t have to pay for the land since it’s already available. I can imagine that a new build without the cost of land might end up costing about the same as an existing property that would still need some renovation.
We are based in Herne, right in the Ruhr area, and wanted to ask if anyone could recommend someone to contact around here.
Does it even make sense to look at the typical prefab home showrooms, etc.? Since we wouldn’t be allowed to build just anything at will here anyway, but would in principle have to build exactly the same type of house as my parents’ next door (though I don’t know who built those; they date back to 1965).
I’d appreciate any exchange of ideas.
We are new to the topic of house building. So far, we have only been interested in existing properties – but after years of searching, nothing suitable has come up, and prices have now become so high that we are considering building a new house.
The situation is as follows:
My parents own an end-terrace house situated on a plot of about 500 sqm (5400 sq ft) (number 51 in the picture). When they bought the house, the undeveloped plot next door was included. We have since spoken with the city and found out that we could build a house on the adjacent plot (which belongs to them, together totaling 1030 sqm (11,100 sq ft), marked with the red X). The development plan apparently contains all the key information. Regarding permits (building permit / planning permission), we shouldn’t need to worry much because all requirements seem to be clearly regulated here.
We are now considering an extension and are looking for house building companies that could advise us, so we can get an initial overview of what the costs might be. We wouldn’t have to pay for the land since it’s already available. I can imagine that a new build without the cost of land might end up costing about the same as an existing property that would still need some renovation.
We are based in Herne, right in the Ruhr area, and wanted to ask if anyone could recommend someone to contact around here.
Does it even make sense to look at the typical prefab home showrooms, etc.? Since we wouldn’t be allowed to build just anything at will here anyway, but would in principle have to build exactly the same type of house as my parents’ next door (though I don’t know who built those; they date back to 1965).
I’d appreciate any exchange of ideas.
Escroda schrieb:
For a carport yes, an uncovered parking space is also allowed outside the building envelope.
Well, we’re not entirely sure since the additional regulations are not known. Maybe you’re lucky and there are no further design requirements. What is certain is the roof pitch and the number of floors, unless exemptions from the zoning plan are granted.Ah, okay, learned something new again – a simple parking space would probably also be sufficient for us. That would be good because then the area could be properly used as living space.
Nadi_Mai schrieb:
Do I just go to company XY and say, “Hey, this is my parents’ house. I want exactly the same one (except for the interior, since that’s flexible). How much would it cost if you built something like this?” Or do I first need to go to an architect or someone else who can put everything on paper with exact measurements and so on (which no one does for free and has to be paid for), and then take that to company XY to get a rough estimate of whether it fits within our budget?ypg schrieb:
A local/regional main contractor or general contractor with a solid reputation is the right building partner here.ypg schrieb:
Okay, thank you very much!
I will start researching which general contractors / construction managers are nearby and get in touch with several to see what they have to offer.
Nadi_Mai schrieb:
I have spent what feels like half the day browsing through various house catalogs. Beautiful houses, but none like my parents’ house, so I would have to change something everywhere. Do I now go to company XY and say – hey, my parents’ house is like this. I want exactly the same. The catalog houses are really just a menu of inspiration for those planning to build who don’t already have a Pinterest or Viebrockhaus copy request (or a starting point for drafting offers or illustrating price examples). Every general contractor, including those offering prefabricated houses, will proudly tell you that they can “made to measure” rebuild your parents’ house as well. What will really matter—if, and that’s still uncertain, uniformity with the neighboring houses in the row of houses is required—is the “house profile” and the exact window and door sill and lintel heights, and at worst the roofing material down to the tile color. More than visual similarity will probably not be demanded.
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11ant schrieb:
Catalog homes are basically just a menu for inspiration for those planning to build who don’t have a specific Pinterest or Viebrockhaus model in mind (or serve as a reference for preparing offers or illustrating price examples). Every general contractor, including prefabricated house providers, will proudly tell you they can “made to measure” rebuild your childhood home. What will really matter here—if, and that is still uncertain, uniformity with neighboring houses in the row is required—are the “house profile” as well as the exact sill and lintel heights of the windows and doors, and in the worst case, the roofing material and even the roof tile color. More than visually “matching” won’t usually be demanded. Okay, thank you very much! You’ve definitely helped me make a lot of progress. I’ll get started on it now. If there are any updates or if I have more questions, I’ll reach out to all of you here again.
Hello – some time has passed, and in the meantime, we have had a few pleasant meetings with architects and made quite a bit of progress. We received a lot of information and even got the first cost estimate for what this project might cost. I was aware that prices have risen significantly, but I was still a bit surprised by the figures thrown at me. Building a private house is really a luxury. I thought it would be somewhat easier with the existing plot. We have already decided to skip the basement, and yet it’s still going to be “that expensive.” Of course, these are just rough estimates for now, but at least it gives an idea of the direction things are heading. I’m curious when the next offers arrive and how the prices might change. I’m attaching the information from the architect for everyone. He stuck pretty much to all the requirements of the development plan (building permit / planning permission) and made the “best” use of the space, so we end up with about 135–140 sqm (1450–1500 sq ft) of living area. Maybe some readers will find this interesting.
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